Please be aware that the below charts reflect estimates and not exact measurements consistent across all kratom vendors. While it is recommended that you buy a scale to correctly measure your kratom, these charts offer support for those who are unable to do so.

When measuring an extract, we strongly recommend purchasing a small digital scale as they often have a significantly higher degree of variability.


Average Powdered Leaf
1 gram0.035 ounces
50 grams1.75 ounces
100 grams3.5 ounces
Crushed Leaf
1 Tablespoon2.7 grams
1 Teaspoon.9 grams
Bali Powder
1 Tablespoon6.2 grams
1 Teaspoon2.3 grams
Maeng Da Powder
1 Tablespoon7 grams
1 Teaspoon2.6 grams
Crushed Leaf
1 Tablespoon2.7 grams
1 Teaspoon.9 grams
Green Malay Powder
1 Tablespoon6.9 grams
1 Teaspoon2.4 grams

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  1. I was stuck taking 16mg of Suboxone for almost 10 years. I hate the shit . I have no energy no drive it ruined my life. Got me off opioid but it sucks. I’m trying Kratom to get off Suboxone tonight first dose here we go .

    1. I’m with you. I’ve been stuck on it for 5 years. It’s horrible and changed me as a person. I have a 15 year old daughter and I’ve sucked at being a mom since I became addicted to Suboxone. I’ve tried 3 times to get off and the longest I lasted was 10 days. I was taking Xanax, Kratom, Tianeptine Sodium and other things. The most important thing to do is to get down to the lowest dose possible before going off it. The sad thing is that I never should’ve been on it. I went to my Pain Management Doctors one day, crying, and told them I was afraid that I was addicted to Percocet, because I kept needing more. I have major chronic pain, fibromyalgia, depression, anxiety, etc. Within a week they put me on Suboxone. Within a month I had horrible side effects, excruciating nerve pain and parts of my body would just jerk all of a sudden. After thinking about it I realized I was never addicted to Percocet. If I had gone off it at the time, I wouldn’t have had any side effects. The commercials and news all got me scared about being on it so I panicked. I realized I hadn’t been addicted, your body just naturally needs more because you build up a tolerance. I went back and told my Docs and they tried to help me get off of Suboxone and even gave me 180, 10-350 Percocets to help. It didn’t work. I took 10 at a time and it didn’t make a dent. That was 4 1/2 years ago. I am now trying Kratom again. I wish you luck!

  2. I’m a heroin addict. I shoot bout a gram of raw dope a day. I’m out of money and ways to get it. I don’t want to turn to crime. My reason for not quitting thus far has been me being scared of withdrawals so I just got 50 g of red Borneo now I’m starting to take some.think my first dose I’m going to try two grams and see how I feel. I just need to get through like 2 to three days of no opiates then I can take a Suboxone for like 2 days and then be done with it. My main thing is all the anxiety and pain that comes with the heroin withdrawal.

    1. Hey man, I kicked a 7-year poppy seed tea habit with the help of kratom. I was probably ingesting a couple hundred milligrams of morphine a day for years, using multiple pounds of the stuff daily. I would suggest going a lot higher than 2 grams of red Borneo. That’s not going to do much for you. I would try 5 or so grams – a good level tablespoon (a normal cereal spoon, not a formal measuring spoon). If that doesn’t do much, try 2 tablespoons– and so on. Takes about 30 minutes to begin feeling anything. Kratom helped me sleep. Also, order more kratom, and expect 7-10 days of rough sailing. You’ll make it. I didn’t feel like a human being again until day 6. The depression is intense, then it lifts. Mass doses of loperamide will eliminate all withdrawals, but they can kill you. If you’re desperate, use 24 milligrams of loperamide, but no more than that, and don’t do it for more that 2-3 days. It takes about 2-3 hours for lope to kick in. One all thing to look forward to is that as time passes, kratom itself will be something you make a “habit” out of — but it’s a healthier one that easier to reduce or quit, and once you find a good vendor, you’re set. It’s affordable and easy to get. Hope this helps. Good luck brother. I know some of what you’re going through. Once you’re through it, you’ll wonder why you waited so long to get your life back. And remember, the sickness you’ll be feeling is not “sobriety.” That will pass — I guarantee it. You’ll enjoy feeling happy and calm without H. Cheers

    2. I stopped taking methadone recently after being on it 3 yrs. Before that I started on percs, then morphine then opanas. I tapered down on the methadone but even at 20 grams felt rough without. Kratom definitely helped me. Going on 3 weeks without methadone and feel pretty decent. Not much energy is my main problem but some white vein kratom helps that. maybe it’s coming off the methadone maybe it’s me hitting my mid-forties I don’t know but regardless the kratom is definitely helpfull and natural. exactly why Uncle Sam and the big pharmaceutical companies are trying 2 stop kratom use. Like cannabis it helps and is natural

    3. Are you having good luck with red Borneo? I get so confused as to what kind to use.

  3. Can you take Kratom while still taking small doses of Percocet?

    1. Yes you can but not high doses. If you are wanting to take a higher dose of Kratom I would cut the pain pill in half first. I am a former addict of pain meds. And Kratom got me away from them. Now all I use for pain is Kratom for what ever the problem is. Hope this helps.

      1. I’m considering having my grandmother try Kratom, she takes 60mg of oxy per dose and does that about 4times a day, how much Kratom should I start her on?

        1. Yikes thats quite a high dose, I would say try starting at 5-7 and bump it up margionably until it works (10,15,20,30,45,etc)

          I was doing about 20mg oxy for weeks until I did something like 30-40-55-80-120-200-240-360

          At day 5 I think, 10g of kratom was mire than sufficient of getting rid of any remaining withdrawals. Though the first few days I just benzo’d out of. Any questions feel free to ask.

  4. If you have recovered from opiates then I recommend staying the $%#% away. You’re welcome.

    1. ahhh shut ya mouth ya scum

  5. You can visit your local herbal store or a web brand I have used for several years is kraken kratom.

  6. If you have trouble getting powdered Kratom down put in chocolate milk and like a water bottle or some sort of container with a lid and shake. Kratom is resistant to liquids so it’ll take about 10 minutes for it to be able to start mixing evenly in liquids. Wouldn’t recommend coffee as it can irratate bowels and induce a sick to the stomach feeling and also dehydrate. For pain relief and withdrawal use RED VEIN strains. I prefer RED elephant and RED maeng da. Green and white are good for relaxation, positivity, focus etc. I took 4-5 oxycodone 10mg a day for 3+ years. I use 3 teaspoons/ 1 tablespoon of RED VEIN strains every 6-8 hours. Note if you are lactose use soy or almond milks etc.

  7. Wondering if anybody knows. But i know with heroin and other opiates you need to have a window for the drugs to leave your recepors becore you can take suboxone or you will go into precipitated withdraw. Does the same apply for kratom?

    1. PLEASE READ. I am a little disappointed that no one has posted this so far. I just hope everyone new to Kratom understands something, it was not meant to be ingested daily, forever. At higher doses, you WILL experience withdrawal to an extent, if you stop taking it abruptly. It’s no where near as bad as opiod detox, however there is significant discomfort involved. I would recommend tapering yourself down to less than a teaspoon per day before jumping off. You should barely feel the difference, physically. Mental reliance now is a different story. You may be in for a shit show. Please take this seriously. I’ve seen people go through psychological agony trying to get off this shit. Either way, I would definitely admit that Kratom saved my life. Cheers.

    2. No you can actually kick the habit with kratom in fact. Suboxone helps get you off the H but the docs don’t tell you suboxone is also addictive. Suboxone helped get me clean and kratom helped me get off of suboxone. I just wished more people knew how this plant can save lives. Hope this helps

      1. Methadone is what im on and i tried coming off…11 days and i went psycho. Will kratom ween you off methadone. Please email me…

        1. I haven’t had methadone in almost 3 weeks. Wean down as much as possible. I’ve heard horror stories about coming off methadone and people being sick for even a year. Ridiculous fucking sucks. But kratom absolutely has helped. Would have been lost without the stuff!!

      2. I was stuck taking 16mg of Suboxone for almost 10 years. I hate the shit . I have no energy no drive it ruined my life. Got me off opioid but it sucks. I’m trying Kratom to get off Suboxone tonight first dose here we go .

    3. You can take subs directly after kratom ive done it many times…make sure your at least 3 days off dope or you will get thrown into precipitated withdrawal

      1. Thank you for your reply to Adams question! I have been wondering the same thing and have literally been scouring the internet but getting mixed answers but I haven’t seen anything where someone said they have tried it and you’ll be okay. Thank you!! I tried to stop the subs and ended up relapsing and now taking Kratom. I jumped off subs at 20 mg. Stupid! I’m going back on them. I’m a mess right now even with the Kratom. Maybe I’m not taking enough but I was taking 120 capsules a day of the Whole Herb Red Bali – I thought that was a lot. I shouldn’t complain though, it’s DEF been a huge help. I’m going back on the subs though and going to taper off the right way. I can’t fathom the thought of being like this for however long. My doctor appt. is tmrw so perfect timing that I saw this. Talk about the LOA. Luv it! Thank you Rob 🙂

        1. I was on methadone for 3 years. I highly highly recommend tapering down lower than 20 mg of the sub. The kratom will definitely help when you get to a lower dosage and say f it

    4. No it does not. I didn’t even think about this (probably should have) and took my suboxone like 2 hrs after takings Kratom and I was fine, no withdrawal symptoms.

  8. We all have been lied to and manipulated by big pharma who mfg drugs and doctors who only know how to write prescriptions (doctors are not trained in holistic meds or nutrition)
    Next, drugs work because we aren’t exposed to anything else and we trust our docs and to some extent we trust big pharm because we think “if it was bad our govt. wouldn’t allow it”. It’s o.k. to think this way, very educated people fall prey to the constant barrage of marketing.
    Drugs make us feel better, check.
    Now here’s the money shot. Instead of trying to “get off something” lets try a “lifestyle change”. Start with a whole food plant based diet. Super easy prep extremely healthy, big shot of energy. Your body is craving all sorts of nutrients in addition to drugs yet we often only focus on the drugs. Next, get moving, anyway you can to get some blood circulating it will help to flush your system quicker.
    Join an exercise, or cooking group or anything that gets you away from your regular loser crew.
    If you’re going to use Kratom or weed, or something else, watch that your not just replacing one substance for another s d keep a journal so you know what works and what didn’t.
    Don’t give up. You don’t need to be a slave. You are strong and collectively we send out our energy to help you. Fuck big pharma, let’s hit em where it hurts.

  9. I used to take kratom in highschool, itd help me stay positive and have alot of energy. After I graduated I developed servere social anxiety and I’m just wondering is kratom would help me be more upbeat and positive? I can barely finish a shift at work without having panic attacks because of how busy my job gets and I really need this job ha

    1. Some people think it works for anxiety, I’ve also heard others use CBD oils without the THC however, if you’re job is one that drug tests I don’t suggest it. This can help in low doses. But finding the root of the anxiety is the true way to help break the cycle. Addressing the issue it even just knowing. Can help lower the severity and possibly stopping most of them all together! Support groups are another good tool. Them more tools in your pocket the better chance of beating the attacks before they become unmanageable. Good luck!

    2. Yes. My situation is very similar to yours and it has saved my life on so many occasions. Just take it. Stay tf away from pills. And rekindle your inner trust for yourself.

  10. After 22 days of Suboxone withdrawal a friend of mine recommended trying Kratom. He told me a quarter teaspoon in my coffee a few times a day will do the trick. This was in May. I am now currently taking about 5 heaping teaspoons throughout the day. Not because I want it but because my body needs it. I am completely physically dependent on kratom. It sucks because I am starting to get the feeling of being depressed not to mention physically dependent and bummed out at myself For another drug to get off of. I was so proud of myself for getting off of the Suboxone and now I have to do this all over again. I am very grateful that I was able to get off of pharmaceuticals and start getting some sleep but now I can’t go 4 hours without the feeling of withdrawal. Therefore I am getting up throughout the night. Any suggestions on tapering off of this stuff?? The dosage that I am currently taking does not give me energy nor does it make me feel better…. it just takes away the withdrawal!

    1. Hey hey! I totally hear you. Alcohol and weed and really anything I could get my hands on was my frug of choice and about 6 months sober from all of it I tried Kratom. Went from 5g at night to 10g 4 times a day. I’m tapering now. Just do it slowly. Start decreasing your dose by .5 each day. So say your taking 5g a couple times a day now cut down to 4.5 for each dose that day, then continue until your done. There’s a ton of supplements that are helpful with the withdrawal symptoms, but if your tapering slowly you shouldn’t get many withdrawals. I’m taking magnesium for the restless legs and melatonin at night for sleep. If you hop on reddit and search for Kratom withdrawal you’ll see a lot of others. Good luck buddy!

    2. Tapering even by just a little helped me! I drink mine in a juice and started adding more juice and lowering my measurements every 3rd-4th day I would do it again. I make my daily amount and would take a drink through out the day. After a few weeks I was down to a 10 g from 70! And just stopped taking all together. Good luck!

    3. I’ve been there. You can do it! Pay for CrossFit.

    4. I have taken, quit, taken, quit kratom for yeeears. Sounds to me like youre getting stagnant strain syndrome. Just switch it up and take less..also, do some research. Not to be mean but you sound very naive to psycoactives, the fact you were ever put on suboxone is a freaking horror story at best. not to sound like that punk uncle, but grow up. Even suboxone is easier to quit than heroine or speed, and i did both for a long time, now i am completely clean and use kratom to curve the urges that i will continue to have for the rest of my life, and im fine with that.

      1. Just because you had an easy time coming off of Suboxone, doesn’t mean that everyone else does. In fact, In my life I have never heard anyone say easier than heroin but exactly the opposite. I think it’s wicked rude of you and you do sound like that punk uncle, exactly that a PUNK telling someone to grow up for having a hard time quitting an addiction. Everyone is different. Like I said just because it was easy for you doesn’t mean it will be easy for everyone else. Why are there so many drug addicts? Hugely because it’s is NOT easy to stop. No one wants to be a drug addict. If it were easy, it wouldn’t be such a huge problem. Get off your high horse! I commend and respect anyone trying to stop living in the hell of addiction. Cuz that’s what it is – he’ll get people keep doing it. Think before you write ignorant comments like that.

  11. kratom gives me energy and helps with social anxiety. i take a low dose. anyone else have this effect?

    1. Yes!! Take maeng da for energy, positive mood n pain relief

  12. I just started with kratom, white/green blend. I have been taking 4 hydos per day for over 20 years due to severe scoliosis. I started taking 1 capsule every 12 hours. I cut the gyros in 1/2 but noticed pain was still there. I have developed insomnia and have slept very little. I mentioned it to my provider and recommended I try 1 capsule of maeng-da starting slow with 2 capsules per day. I understand I have to find the right dosage for me but in the meantime I really need my sleep. And suggestions?

    1. One or two 00 size capsules will do absolutely nothing. Take 10-15 00 size capsules start with 5 wait 30 minutes and take 2 every 15 minutes until you feel better.

  13. Hey guys, I’ve been in the methodone clinic four 7 years and as of Friday I took my last dose. I’m in acute withdrawals. I have been wanting to try some kartom. I bought red Malaysia. I just taken my first dose. I sure hope this works.

    1. It will work use powder…2 tablespoons…put in hot cup of coffee…then add cool off choke it down…it tastes like crap….3-4 times a day.. It will help stomach issues…it will stop diarrhea…and calm your restlessness….nothing like a real dose of methodone/oxy…..but you will feel 10 times better….it gets better my friend….stick with it….nothing like freedom again…from pharma👍

      1. That’s a pretty high dose to start with, isn’t it?

    2. Hey Hopeful. How are you doing?! Hope you are doing well. Ive never been an addict but I’m sure it can’t be easy. hang in there!

  14. Could someone please tell me how much
    Kratom is in a capsule? I’m new to this since being forced to go cold turkey from opioids
    (SOB’s Big Pharma, FDA, etc)
    It’s been 18 months since my last Narco. The withdrawals weren’t too bad because I went to
    A Doctor that helps b people detox, by giving them Suboxne for 3 months & you have to taper
    Off yourself before the 3 months is done over.
    There’s nothing that replaces Narco pain meds
    Even thou I’m not expecting a miracle- this is SO much better than the old one.
    So I need to know how much K is in a capsule
    In order to figure out my doesage

    1. Each capsule contains 1/2 gram..

      I wish you luck because I’m in the same situation. I’m fed up with PAs in my pain Drs office having a snotty attitude toward me.. I have been a patient for 13 years and they still do this. I’m really over it.

      I have been opioid free for 6 days thanks to Kratom. No withdrawal effects. I as on morphine 30 mg 3x per day and Percocet 10mg 2x per day. I had to reduce my morphine by cutting them in half for several days before doing kratom so the withdrawals wouldn’t be so bad when I jumped off to kratom. It worked like a charm. I did really good and so far, I barely feel 95% of any withdrawal.. once again I wish yo luck.

    2. I’m in the same boat! Going to pic up my order. 250grams of the red white and green(9 ounces for 75$). Been tapering off my subs the past 6 months from 4mg to 3 2 and 1 in about two week time periods after the last day i didn’t have kratom but a substitute called quadrangular leaf (look it up)bc kratom is not sold in the state where i live. Took 5 at a time 3 times a day and now withdrawal what so ever and swapping over to kratom today! Very surprised how this stuff works!!!!!!!

  15. I’m a recovering opioid addict who “was” clean for 7 years, I tried kratom two year ago due to a car accident. I wandered Into a smoke shop to get hookah supplies and was recommended to try it since its “natural”. I hear it works for some people but its wide availability and uninformed salesmen are misleading people. I fear I gotten out of control and have the same urges as opiates. I’m up to about 60g-90g a day of green vein powder. It’s more affordable than other opiates so I can afford it for now but I fear my tolerance will get even higher. I’d like to cut down to a lower amount and possible quit all together. I’m getting married soon and would like to not have to worry about having it on the honeymoon. Any advice on how to cut down easily in 2 months without rehab would be appreciated. Dont let anyone fool you, you can get addicted to this stuff especially if you have history.

    1. Hey Sam.

      I’m in the same boat and here’s my current situation; I’m tapering the shit out of myself with the following help; DLPA, powdered rosemary, and megadose of vitamin C (for how much please refer to the references at the end). In two days I’ve OVER halved my dosing (the amount, not the frequency which is important to note I think) but am still getting up (with slight sweats/chill) too early and hence addition of rosemary AM and PM starting today. I know I’m in WD because I have the loose bowels and am sneezing periodically.

      Only the slightest of dopesick which is a remarkable improvement considering the 3 times i tried WD ‘cold turkey’ and was jumping out of my skin, jumping twitches upon waking, hot/cold/chills… Then I’d just double up my dose upon waking and resign myself to spending my life on kratom. I did this three times. As a result my tolerance went through the roof like yours. :\

      For two days now that I’m feeling better physically (this time, using the taper + comfort supplements) I can get to dealing with my emotional aspect of the W/D (DLPA) whereas before, I was too physically sick to even deal with the mind/brain. I bought my last kilo with the idea that this is my taper order. At this rate, though, I’ll still have 500 grams when i’ve finished. Hell yeah to the Feck Yay!

      When I get to PAWS (post-acute withdrawal) and have the suicidal thoughts/depression I’m staying on my doses of DLPA (purchased from Amazon, Solarray’s version) for at least a month because #1 it’s inexpensive and #2 i’m prone to episodic depression anyway. I was turned onto DLPA from the following information guide which I hope can be of help to others desiring to lessen/WD from kratom (or other opiods):

      DLPA for emotional (depression/taperability) WD:
      Rosemary for physical WD (restless leg/sleep):
      Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) for WD/desire lessening:

    2. Hey man I know what I’m about to suggest won’t sound real because of all the other people regurgitate the same shit. I have a history of addiction myself and what worked for me was focusing and fine tuning my relationship with my spirit. My addiction lead me to God which I know is what happens for a lot of people. Maybe that will work for you or maybe not. But you asked for advice and this is without a doubt the best advice I can give you. With an open heart, reconnect with your spirit. I know you know like I know that there’s no easy road to recovery. This one isn’t either cus for a while you’ll feel like nothing’s happening. But give it a few real days and I promise you’ll get better inshaAllah. Good luck friend.

    3. My advice would be to to not let a substance rule your life. If you are in the habit of making impulse choices you might want to get a handle on that versus blaming the substance

  16. Hi I’m Peggie and I’ve been using heroin snorting it for about a year like a 20 pack a day like a

    1. Is kratom dangerous with moderate alcohol use? I’m still getting my narco but interested to get off them for a plant. Just ordered some on line. A recommendation where to purchase would be appreciated. I watched a special on TV where a scientist went to Thailand and used kratom and talked and studied it.

      The out come was there was nothing wrong with the plant and if anybody was against it they unreasonable . The alcohol use never bothered me. This is with liver enzymes checked every to 6 months because of the norco for over 10 years.

  17. *There is no free lunch people, Kratom isn’t going to magically make opiate withdrawal completely go away. Don’t fool yourself, Suboxone and methadone are merely postponing withdrawal because of their half life.

    Reposted this paragraph to due autocorrect typos.

    1. Well suboxone and methadone have nothing to do with kratom. Kratom helps significantly ease opiate withdrawals through its alkaloids temporarily attaching (rather than binding) themselves to opiate receptors. It does not simply postpone withdrawal. It’s not going to do everything for a recovering opiate addict, but it can make a difference major enough to be life vs. death for the user. Educate yourself rather than doomsaying fear-mongering juxtapositions that make no sense.

    2. What is that supposed to even mean?? You can take yourself off Suboxone and go through zero withdrawals besides being a tiny bit tired, and kratom can help offset any of that . I tapered off 16 mg of sub a day Just by tapering slowly, on the days I felt a little groggy kratom more than helped. Tapering slowly is the key , You should say things to try to inspire people to get off that shit. not scare them.

      1. It’s a more modern way of going about treating addiction but “harm reduction advice” is much better than telling people that they’re addicts and need to stop everything. If Kratom has some risks but Joe blow uses it instead of heroin: that’s better than putting him in treatment where he’s just gunnu crave dope and possibly relapse.

      2. Exactly what i did and no withdrawals so far👌

  18. Hi, I just ordered some Kratom. I ordered white, yellow and red. I I’m a total insomniac and need multiple pills to put me to sleep. I was wondering how many table spoons it will take to guarantee that I will be Knocked out. I’m 6ft tall and weigh 250lbs. Someone please help!

    1. Not much, may a teaspoon or less to start. Try have a teaspoon a few hours before bed in case it kicks hard. If it doesn’t you can always take a little more . Finding your dose is what’s important here

    2. There are diffrent kinds and diffrent blends out there and you can mix em as well I would research how to go about that before mixing anything up. Red seems to be the most sedative IMO. Kratom is a energy booster as well.. (the green) that’s just what I’ve learned so far..

    3. Hey just looking for the right mind set bipolar with major anxiety and depression

    4. Aloha David…Not! Tablespoons…. think smaller! White is the strongest stimulant, I only use that in the morning. Bentuangie is the only strain where I felt a bit ‘knocked out’, red strain too. Yellow is supposed to be relaxing as well. I take only a mim amount mainly for intractable nerve pain. For RLS and sleep, I use passion flower extract, CBD and kava. After reading some of these posts, I am concerned about kratom withdrawal. However it’s either this or some other kind of pain relief.

  19. I have been using Kratom for. 6 years for arthritis. 1 teaspoon am and 1 teaspoon pm. All is well and I dont plan on increasing the dosage. The best wat for me to take it is with orange juice.😁

    1. What type of Arthritis do u have. What were you doing for pain . Does this really help.

  20. I am at the end of a kratom detox. I was taking 25 grams a day 3x a day for a total of 75 grams a day of bali kratom powder. It has been a little over a month and I am down to 5 grams once a day at bedtime because at night I still get the shakes from the detox. One thing I have noticed and am curious to get a little insight on –if I take any opiate (oxycodone, codeine) or benzodiazepine (lorazepam) the kratom blocks both of them,, which is worse than suboxone, which only blocks opiates. Has anyone else been blocked from opiates or benzos while on kratom, and if so, how long do you have to be completely off kratom to not be blocked anymore?

  21. Im needing to know which types to take for energy, i have none due to my medical conditions. Also need for pain management so i can stop the hydro. Have never taken kratom before so doseages would be helpful also

    1. Hey there, I take (9~12) grams in the morning of mang-da powder. I’m 6’3″ 250lbs that’s two or three teaspoons. I have the same symptoms you described. I’ve had multiple surgeries on my back and shoulders. I was in pain management but at the start of 2019 everything changed. Government under big push to get everyone off medications. It doesn’t work like the medications I was taking but it helps. I also noticed more energy. I don’t take it at night. Everyone reacts differently. My suggestion would be a teaspoon (flat measure) in the morning. I take it with warm water followed by coffee. You have to find what works for you. I also found it may take 45min to take effect so I also suggest waiting an hour. I’ve taken more in a short period of time and it was too much not anything bad for me just a little irritable.

    2. Your going to want to go with the MAENG DA it is the best one for energy at least for me I struggle bad with that as well and I am way to young to be dealing with that type of stuff but opiates are the devil. I would start with 3 to 4 capsules and see how you feel the less you take the more stimulating it is the more you take the more numbing and relaxing it is 🙂 hope all is well and good luck to you!!

    3. Barb, White for flight, red for bed and green for in between 🙂 As you figure out what you like you can also mix them! Good luck!

  22. Im needing to know which types to take for energy, i have none due to my medical conditions. Also need for pain management so i can stop the hydro.

    1. As you have probably heard, the green leaf promotes energy, while the red is more for pain management, and relaxing. But they have a lot of overlap, and both would work. MaengDa is supposed to be stronger, but any good Bali green or red will work.
      Start low, and try both. Many people like to mix, to get the most suitable effects.

      One more thing, I won’t advertise for any certain vendor, though I have a few favorites. I WILL say however, do a search for “wholesale kratom”. The prices for a half or a full kilogram (2.2 lbs) will blow away any retailer price.

      1. Exactly! I bought in bulk direct from farm in Indonesia, happy about it. Only thing I wonder about, is shelf life?

  23. needing help with dosage and on about 3 grams of H a day iv user.i just got red vein and white vien 500mg 20ct on both. will this help me kick my detox symptoms down? how much n how often should i take it please email me

    1. yea, you shouldnt have opiate withdrawl of 2-4 grams of kratom.. the red is better for opiate addiction since its more of a pain killer than energy(white/green). i take 4 grams at a time 3 times a day. I Been doin it that way for 5 months. I wish i woulda found this when i was commin off H but i cold turkeyed that shit and it almost killed me. I take the white maeng da… amazing for mind blowing energy without the jitters..Kratom is awesome

    2. Hey guys, I am an individual who has overcome opiate addiction with Kratom. I can give you all of the info you need and would love to help. Email me [email protected]

    3. Go get Maeng Da Kratom. I would mention a specific brand here but I don’t want to appear to be biased in general.

      Take a teaspoon every hour until you don’t feel miserable.

      The risk of taking too much kratom vs being addicted to IV opiates aren’t even measureable.

      When I was getting off of a 5 year 450mg per day Oxycodone habit I was taking a teaspoon in the morning and one at night AFTER I did a 14 day taper down to 60mg without any help. My girlfriend one morning made my dose for me and used a tablespoon and doubled it thinking I wasn’t taking enough. It had no ill effects. I only found out when discussing dosages with her and the possibility of overdosing.

      Do not use Kratom while still taking a “normal” dose of opiates. Take Kratom as a crutch only when you feel miserable from withdrawal. If you do this you won’t get negative effects of Kratom, it will merely act as a tool. And if you take a dose of Kratom don’t expect to feel “good” while in withdrawal, it only takes the edge off and helps you sleep and at first only 10 to 20 minutes after the dose, as time goes on meaning days… expect to be able to sleep longer, and once you can sleep for a few hours, start reducing the Kratom dose so you dont get hooked on Kratom itself which is very unlikely from my experience.

      There is no free lunch people, Kratom isn’t going to magically make update withdrawal completely go away. Don’t fool yourself, Suboxone and methadone or near me postponing withdrawal because of their half life.

      If my post helps one single person then I’m happy. I wish I knew about Kratom years ago.

    4. Buy it by the kilo…you’re likely gonna need an oz at a time for the next bit of time, at least.

    5. Hey! I was an IV H user for 5 years. No Matt what you do, detoxing is scary and sucks but being clean is the best thing in the world. Kratom will definitely take the edge off and sleep will come sooner. I’d go a couple weeks without sleep. My husband and I prefer Maeng Da, loose powder. Since you are a heavy user, you will likely need a stronger dose of Kratom to address withdrawal symptoms. Don’t make the mistake of overdoing it, expecting a magical opiate feeling cause it doesn’t work like that post heroin use. You’ll just feel like shit. Start with a teaspoon and a half. I mix it in oj. Give it an hour and take more if needed. Every humans dosage will vary so a little trial and error period will exist until you find your personal dose. My love and good vibes to you and your journey of getting clean. It’s the hardest thing I put myself through and it took years of trying to actually stay clean. Feel free to email me if you have questions or need support. 💚

  24. Please someone help me I am trying to figure out how to start this… I’m a Fentanyl user I want to be completely sober again. I was told how great Kratom is and was given some by a friend to try. So I have white warrior, green push, rmd and white malanga names might be off because his handwriting is hard to read. Also this is all in powder form. I need to know when it’s safe to start the Kratom and how much I should be taking. I am 31 4”11 and 160 pounds.. Please help me get started guys… I would be greatly appreciated for feedback…

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