White Vein Indo

White Vein Indo, just as Red Indo, is best known for its pain relief attributes.

If lounging on the deck isn’t your goal, White Vein Indo is the choice, as it is significantly less sedative than its chilled out red cousin. White Indo brings an energy kick and a higher sense of euphoria, but tamer than those qualities in Bali.



The details

White Vein Indo, just as Red Indo, is best known for its pain relief attributes. However, unlike the calming Red Indo, White Vein Indo brings with it more of a euphoric, dissociative kick.

the difference

With the sense of euphoria comes for of an energy boost than the sedative Red Indo. Longer lasting, but milder, energy boosting effects than Bali Kratom.

the science

A rarer strain than others, it is still highly sought after due to its long lasting pain relief and dissociative qualities. It is mostly grown in Indonesia, and the purest forms of White Vein Indo are those from the jungles of Indonesia. 

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  1. Hello I’m Matthew, indeed white vain indo is the best for tramadol withdrawa. I was addicted to trams for 4 years popping 20 50g threw the day like 5 at a time. I seeked help threw a drug clinic and never will let do that again!!!!!

    Sadly like didn’t know about kratom in 2012 2013 2014 2015 just didn’t use the Internet much and let truly wished like did as kratom would of saved me then!!!!!! I was put on subtext it’s like suboxon and it drew the life out of me!!!!!! lol lost all my looks and felt really ill.

    So then look found kratom and the trick is you have to ween down of the tramadol in half then take a teaspoon of kratom. Look km no doctor but white vain is far to weak for tramadol withdrawal as you need meang da green as that will take the withdrawals away but if you can’t get it know because of the ban take lopramide for 3 days at 20 tablets a day it will kill the tramadol withdrawal but after day 3 ween down half of the lope then keep tapering then jump at 2mg then take siberinan ginseng drops by the tube in the bottle as local health shops will sell it in store!!!! Just take the ginseng when you feel a little low as this takes away paws !!!!!! All this link did and belive me know went threw he’ll!!!! And yes kratom works but if you jump of kratom it’s only 5 days of restlessness and 1 month of PAWS but jumping of the tramadol is a killer as you will end up at A AND E!!!!! you can ween of tramadol !!!! But running for suboxon is like going from tramadol to heroin !!! You don’t get the feeling like you do from H but the body and moods are the same !!!!! So it is a short term situation so hang in there !!!!! Ginseng tea bags help as they have the real USA product in the ingredients but open the tea bags up and put 5 of the contents in a hot cup of water half full, it looks yucky but after 5 mind you will get releaf … Don’t go to the clinics there a big pharmacy con that will pull you down to the floor! Just in it for the money and not your health as they keep you on the drug for far to long causing you took look even sicker and lethargic.

    Hope this helps

    God bless


    1. Anybody reading this should know that Tramadol also acts in a similar way as an SSRI/SNRI (2 different kinds of antidepressants). If you are experiencing withdrawal as a result of attempting to free yourself from your prescription of Tramadol, you may still experience withdrawal symptoms due to the serotonergic/noradrenergic effects of Tramadol.
      This guy above (Matthew) is clearly trying to help but it is also obvious that he is not well-versed in these matters or the biochemistry behind certain pain medications. Please do your research before ordering or consuming any of the products mentioned in his post or this web page. Everybody is different and may react to things differently, but if you do your research and learn about kratom you will be more likely to make an accurate estimation concerning whether kratom is appropriate for your needs and if it is, then you will also be more likely to make an accurate estimation concerning dosage.

      1. I do believe he is trying too help but I agree with your point and appreciate you pointing out that tramadol isn’t a “traditional” pain medication and more research should be done before stopping.

        But, if you gotta do it, taper if you can because cold turkey off any opiate or opiate aganist etc is tough. Loperamede (Imodium) truly does help the physical withdrawal of opiates as it’s one itself (no, you won’t get high. No, you can’t make it get you high unless you wanna risk you health; ie: don’t take 20 of them and a bunch of potentiators, a few will do for relief).

        Always be safe and know what your talking and the interactions with other drugs or homeopathic remedies! I feel for anyone going through withdrawal. Please, don’t give up!

    2. Hello and I hope everyone is well. I’ve been reading the comments,and just wanted to throw this out there about tramadol..14yrs ago, I was prescribed tramadol for several issues, and began taking 3 or 4 at a time,not to get high,but bc my pain level from an accident was so great,and my tram tolerance became worse. Too much tramadol in a lot if ppl will cause seizures, as I went through this until a wonderful Dr finally linked my tram use to seizures..I stopped taking for 10yrs,but now have been back on tram for 2 yrs, but ONLY take 2 per day,along with lyrica for fibromyalgia..my whole point, anyone taking a lot of tram at one time or in a 24 he period is susceptible to begin having seizures. I was put on heavy dose of gabapentin to counteract and make my seizures subside..so pls be careful and take your meds as prescribed

      Just a person who cares!

      1. I was on Nucynta (nick name “Super Tramadol) and it too has SNRI and some SRI activity. It was prescribed after back surgery and I used it for several months only in the doses prescribed. When I decided to stop I was able to taper over a few weeks by decreasing dosage and then decreasing frequency once down to lowest dosage. To get off of the last few milligrams I used Kratom and I never had any significant signs of withdrawal. I currently have L4-5 stenosis and Degenerative Discs resulting in chronic lower back pain. So I use kratom on a nearly daily basis. I decrease dose at times as well as switch strains and types so as to not develop tolerance. My pain that is a #7 without Kratom is a # to #4 usually. I can live with a pain level of #5 if I have to. Kratom also helps me with my energy levels depending upon the strain used. Used Maeng Da to stop Nucynta and now use varying strains depending on level of analgesia, energy, cognition I desire.

  2. Hello. I have used Kratom in the past. I had a very relaxing euphoric type Kratom that helped me with Tramadol withdraw. I think it was a white but I’m not sure. Can u help?

  3. Depending on someone’s chemistry this graph might be totally for the next guy.

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