Please be aware that the below charts reflect estimates and not exact measurements consistent across all kratom vendors. While it is recommended that you buy a scale to correctly measure your kratom, these charts offer support for those who are unable to do so.

When measuring an extract, we strongly recommend purchasing a small digital scale as they often have a significantly higher degree of variability.


Average Powdered Leaf
1 gram0.035 ounces
50 grams1.75 ounces
100 grams3.5 ounces
Crushed Leaf
1 Tablespoon2.7 grams
1 Teaspoon.9 grams
Bali Powder
1 Tablespoon6.2 grams
1 Teaspoon2.3 grams
Maeng Da Powder
1 Tablespoon7 grams
1 Teaspoon2.6 grams
Crushed Leaf
1 Tablespoon2.7 grams
1 Teaspoon.9 grams
Green Malay Powder
1 Tablespoon6.9 grams
1 Teaspoon2.4 grams

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  1. Just a question, does anyone take celexa (antidepressant) with kratom? I’m in a treatment program and kratom is the only thing truly keeping me from relapsing but I was also prescribed celexa. Has anyone had any interactions taking the two? Thanks

    1. I didnt notice any adverse reactions or differences when I was taking celexa but I was also on a very low dose of celexa at the time.

    2. I take 40mg Celexa and Kratom. I have had no interactions or anything. I have been on the Celexa for about 3 years and started using Kratom one year ago. 🙂

    3. I take 40mg of Celexa also, and haven’t had any problems taking Kratom. I would like to know if anyone has had the issues I’m having with withdrawal from Fentanyl. I have trigeminal neuralgia, which causes extreme nerve pain, and was eventually prescribed 4 different pain killers to control the pain. After 2 years of taking Fentanyl bad pain killers the routine became tiring and the side effects intolerable. I began to taper off my meds and in June 2018 I had a laser procedure to alleviate much of the sporadic nerve pain. After the procedure I decreased my meds to only the Fentanyl patch, and as my doctor advised cut them into smaller pieces to slowly taper off. I had my last dose/patch 2 and a half weeks ago and the withdrawal still kicked in terribly hard, despite dosing down to a 1/4″x1/4″ size patch. I read up on Kratom and felt that trying wouldn’t hurt, and a Kratom shop just so happened to be 3 blocks from my place. The Kratom immediately helped with my withdrawal symptoms, but as the Kratom wears off, the withdrawal symptoms kick in. Although Kratom isn’t an opiate, because it works in the brain similar to one scares me. I don’t want to feel or be addicted to anything my body doesn’t need. Today begins the 3rd week of my opiate withdrawal. The symptoms aren’t as bad, I just can’t sleep longer than 3-4 hours a night, and my muscles feel sore. Kratom helps alleviate the soreness, and elevates my mood but the 3 or 4 capsules is typically take don’t have the same effect, and I’m not going to 5. I’m worried that taking Kratom could be extending the symptoms of my opiate withdrawal. Has anyone had a similar experience with using Kratom to help with opiate withdrawal, and would you suggest that I quit taking Kratom now?

      1. I withdrew from fentanyl 2yrs ago.cold.turkey…was dr. Have me on opiods…I’m trying to wean off going to use krantom…pray it works… fed up.with doctors….

    4. trying krantom 1/2/ tsp.going thanks

  2. hello everyone.
    I am very new to kratom and have already learned so much just reading the replies. Had no idea that there could be so much variation between batches and powder variation! I needed a pain and anxiety supplement that actually works, and the one I have tried does, however I do end up violently retching after about 1.5 hrs. I am already taking a very small dose (by measurement, not weight), just wondering if experienced folks keep at it or just stop taking it. Is there any chance of organ damage from kratom use? Thanks all

    1. I did. Different strains/dosage amounts effect people differently. I find red and green strains help me with pain.

      1. I’m looking for kratom tho help with my husband’s pain, oxy withdrawal(mainly pain to stay of oxy) and for his anxiety.
        What strains and dosages should we start with? No scale so have to be tspns at the moment.
        We’d appreciate and are desperate for advice. He can’t keep going thru withdrawal just cuz his dr won’t write oxy. Plus, he’s in actual pain, that’s why he takes oxy.

    2. Take dramamine before hand or benadryl

    3. I just got some have not taken it yet. They said don’t take on empty stomach an try tsp of the powder first then see how that does an tomorrow take two tsp. It scares me the reviews. We are having a tea shop opening up that is serving kratom tea. I can’t imagine having a work break an be throwing up an hour or so later. I have chronic pain. They lady said try Bali kratom

      1. taking on an empty stomach makes it more effective and yes i do take on empty stomach

  3. I take 2 mg of Klonopin after I get off at work around 6 PM. It’s getting more difficult to get a doctors prescription Because some doctors require that I go see a therapist for treatment and the therapist calls the doctor to approve of him writing a prescription. However it is difficult to get to the doctor and therapist because I work Monday through Friday 6 AM to 6 PM. Klonopin is fantastic, And it’s helped me deal with severe anxiety for the past five years. There are times where I can skip a day but recently I depend on it. I am new to Kratom And just bought a little bit from a store and although the guy was really knowledgeable, I’m trying to find the best substitute for Klonopin While on between prescriptions. Does anyone have advice on the best Kratom For severe anxiety that’s not going to have serious side effects?
    Today I bought green Indo, white Bali, and green Borneo. Haven’t taken them yet

    1. I’ve been suffering from chronic bed is ready and depression or four years. I started taking indo and I was able to leave the house finally. I highly recommend it for depression. Just be aware that it is very addicting but won’t kill you

      1. How much did you start with? Thanks

    2. Hi Paul,

      I’ve been talking kratom for a few months, and I honestly don’t feel much of a difference between the different colors, BUT they all work. The key is to alternate the strains (ex: Monday take White kratom. Tuesday take Green kratom, etc….) Doing this will ensure you don’t develop tolerance to any one strain…. Get as many different kinds as you can and alternate. I’ve found the Red strains are the best for relaxation, euphoria, etc…. But ALL of them will make you feel good. I suggest trying as many different ones as possible. Take on empty stomach if you can. Start with 1 teaspoonful to start. Actually 1-2 teaspoonful is ok. If you have any other questions, please ask..


      1. I was told it will make you sick to stomach if you take it on empty stomach from the lady i bought it from.

    3. Lmao you just sound super addicted to klonopin saying all that trying to justify. Just quit before your too deep in

      1. Hahahaha shut it. If it works for him who are you to talk Shit!!

      2. I think u r don’t know what your talking about,u must not deL with anxiety,if u don’t have can’t understand it leave off when u don’t understand u r in a forum for Pray on which is against the law in some states, let’s us know when u get your M.D. and therapist license

  4. I am a nurse and work on a unit that gives lots of pain killers. Tramadol is not very strong. But yes in high doses, above 250mg, it can induce seizure activity. Just the tramadol alone.

  5. Just to clear one thing up. No one should be telling someone to down a table spoon of kratom. Because there is no way of knowing how much Mitragyna speciosa (one of the main alkaloids in the plant) each batch of kratom actually contains. I’ve been using, researching and growing the plants for over 10 years. And over that time I’ve learned you can’t treat one batch of kratom like your last batch. I’ve taking as much as 15 “000” capsules and barely felt it. Then again I’ve taken 1/2 teaspoon of kratom from another batch same strain, vein color and vendor at the time. Which made me vomit for about 3 hours. Kratom is a completely safe botanical to use. But never assume one amount from one batch will be the same in the next. Also the strain and vein color might be the same. But you should also know what they don’t tell you. Such as drying process. are the leaves fermented or not? Fermented kratom is 13 times stronger then morphine. Also never assume the same batch has the same amount of Mitragyna speciosa or any of the as much as the other 25 compounds found in kratom. Unless your have a advance degree in chemistry and a fully equipped laboratory you will have no way of knowing how much of these compounds you are consuming. You just know someone on the internet told you to take 1 full tablespoon. Not even knowing your weight, age or tolorence. So always start low and go from there. The incredibly potent alkaloid, 7-hydroxymitragynine is 13 times higher analgesic potency than morphine and 46 folds higher than standard mitragynine. Red is sedative and a relaxed vein that can produce opioid effects. It is a euphoric color, and also famous for pain relief and relaxation of all kinds.They have high levels of 7-hydroxymitragynine than average kratom, an alkaloid associated with analgesia and stress relief. You must also remember that Everyone has unique biochemistry. Some people are more resistance to some strains more than others.

  6. Can I use kraton with gabapentin?what would be an acceptable dose if each and how iften?

    1. 6692589817 I’ll take a text. Any info? I was using Gabapentin to help with my sleep for a few days but realized, because that’s not what it is used for, I cannot take it constantly. But what happens when you mix Kratom and Gabapentin? I have both 100 mg and 300 mg of the Gabapentin and I am a 29 year old female about 110 lb beginning my detox from a 3-year heroin habit. Left number above to text even! I have 750mg red bali, don’t want to “build a tolerance” to quite anything. Originally the Gabapentin was to help me sleep but I realized I cannot take it everyday or it won’t work for sleep, just wondering what happens when you mix it with the kratom.

      1. I used both in small doses to get thru off and on suboxone use even tho I kicked herion 3 years ago .. and well.. it was safe and pretty helpful

        1. Subs are great for coming off of pain meds- what strains you used for withdrawals? Thanks

      2. I would strongly suggest that you first read experiential reviews on Gabapentin. I suffer from Major depression, and painful arthritis in my lower back. It is a tightrope I navigate, concerning medicine, treating without interactions. Doctor started me on Gabapentin in an effort to get me off Vicodin, which I had successfully taken for almost 10 years. No overdoses, no problems, just RELIEF with the Vicodin. Gabapentin slows the synapses in your brain, along with producing nasty side effects and even personality changes. It took me one absolutely hideous month of withdrawals. Worse than any medication I have ever been on. Every bad feeling you could imagine and relentless. I thought I was not going to make it. Read the hundreds, possibly thousands of neg reviews. There are personal horror stories and they are not hard to find. Withdrawal consisted of sweating, no sleep, nausea, headache, vomiting and all manner of digestive distress, anxiety, depression, I could go on and on. Honestly. It is poison. Go off it slowly. Very slowly, reducing your dosage 100mg a week until you are off. My husband dislocated his shoulder before I knew that the Gabapentin was making me sick. He was not himself at all. He would have outbursts of rage, which nearly ended our almost 30 yr marriage at the time. He titrated down slowly as well. We will not go near the stuff. Please, believe me. If you are on a low dose, go off as soon as you can. High dose? Be slow and careful. It will not be pretty but you WILL get through it. Do that first, then consider Kratom. Gabapentin affects you in ways that others close to you can see, but those of which you can be unaware. Rage. Irritability, anxiety, slowed speech and actions. Dissipation of mental capacity. Run away, but please do it safely and if your doctor doesn’t “get it,” titrate slower. Just know there is light at the end of the tunnel. Please, for the sake of all that is right and good, get off it. ASAP. Best wishes to you. Kratom works, but get rid of the poison first. Then, take the Kratom with care. It is easy to build an unhealthy tolerance pretty quickly. Used properly, it WORKS.

        1. Glad u posted this abt gabapentin. It’s dangerous!! Made me suicidal and was unable to fight it! I was on it for nerve pain and didn’t help. I have the same issues as you and Lyrica was a lifesaver. I’m new to kratom and Hope it can replace the Lyrica as well as the morphine, Baclofen and Butrans.
          I need help with serious pain, arthritis, migraines and withdrawal from those meds. Any ideas or combos i should start with?

          1. Hi I’m pretty new to kratom as well. For two years I was on heavy pain killers after I broke my spine. High dose of Dilaudid and Fentanyl. I was a shell of a human being. I quit all meds I was taking cold turkey. I heard about kratom, and it has been a lifesaver for me. I was on pain meds for two years and I quit them two years ago. I no longer need my ulcer meds as often, or ibuprofen. I was on Gabapentin too. I no longer need it. I still have pain in my spine , but since kratom, I’m more productive at work, I smile more, I sleep great. I’m also losing weight. Every three days I am losing about two pounds. After I quit pain meds cold turkey I gained a lot of weight. Kratom has helped me so much! I wouldn’t try to blend your Lyrica or Gabapentin with kratom. In fact, I would ask my doctor what could happen if you just happen to take certain meds with kratom. I’m a dental hygienist, and the doctors I work with actually recommend kratom. It’s safer than narcotics. I wish you the best of luck and I hope I was helpful. I hope you start feeling better, too. XOXO

          2. The pain killing effect is 13x stronger than morphine. Kratom also doesn’t cause respiratory depression like traditional opiates which makes it very safe.

      3. If i were u, from experience, GET OFF OF GABAPENTIN!!! If you are taking it for nerve pain(which is one reason for it) then stop and take Lyrica. I say this because while i was taking Gabapentin, it gave me serious suicidal ideations/tendencies, that i did not want!!. Never in my life have I had issues with suicide and it had me standing at the kitchen sink basically sawing at my arm with a knife, screaming for someone to please stop me because i couldn’t. Whatever reason you’re taking Gabapentin for, trust me, there is a better medication to take. I have insomnia and the best thing I have ever taken is trazodone. I can judge how much I need to take and will sleep for certain number of hours and wake up just fine, takes a couple times to get used to it. Gabapentin is a dangerous medication

        1. heya, i tried to kill myself taking lyrica, it did to me what gabapentin did to you, and it does it many people. a doctor in australia wanted to stop a study using lyrica for back pain patients because so many reported suicidal ideation: i’m glad it is helping you, but be careful when you advise others that it is safe. after less than a month on lyrica, i took 90 blood pressure pills, told no one and nearly died. never in my life had i done anything like that before. i have permanent movement disorder now and neuropathy that i did not have until lyrica caused it, along with gaining 20 lbs. there’s a facebook group called lyrica survivors for people who are trying to get off it, please suggest that so they know what they’re getting into. wishing you the best.

    2. Not sure if my first reply went through but just curious, one if these replies are working, and two, any info on that?

      1. I take 900 mg’s a day of gabapentin and use kratom on occasion in between my suboxone appt…. ive never had any ILL effects…. however that is just me…. I run out of my suboxone early sometimes because i take more then im supposed to because I have a major stomach issue (that may be related do long term suboxone use)…if u were wondering… im also the same age, and a male

      2. I take 600 mg Gabapentin daily, and there are no side effects whatsoever when taking Kratom. I’m currently taking kratom twice/day in small doses. Hope this helps!!!

  7. I was glad to read all the posts. I’m a newbie too but am totally “hooked” on Kratom. No doctor will help me with pain pills I have fibromyalgia and arthritis real bad and hurt constantly. Kratom is the only thing that helps me. My husband makes it up into pill form for me, and I take 6 to 8 “00” pills every 4 to 5 hours. It has given me my life back. I used to just sit and cry. Now I lead a normal life. ( so so😆)

    1. I have been using Kratom for over 6 months, Mostly red bali, I use it for anxiety and stress and to keep me off the booze and I will say it works, I have not been drinking. I do take a fairly high dose usually 5 teaspoons per dosage. I am getting a decent price, I can get a kilo for like 90 to 95 if I do an ach payment instead of debit or c/c. If you have a drug or drinking problem Kratom will help but you still have to put some work in, it is not a cure all. Its like vaping so you do not crave smokes but the vaping only helps and I still have cravings for smokes ast times. I just hope it stays legal as it is all ready illegal in 6 states. I hope this post helps any fellow addicts. P/O

      1. Where are you getting your Kratom?

        1. If you google where to buy, you can usually find it. I know there are several head shops that sell it in my area; in PA, the employees are not allowed to discuss anything about kratom itself, only the packaging size, price, etc. Go in with an idea of what you want; sometimes they have a book of printouts explaining each strain…… just google “where to buy kratom locally” or you can just purchase it online. do your research, it helps. Good Luck!

    2. Thank you so much Kate. I was going to ask the community what to do since I have fibromyalgia and my doctor won’t give me pain medication either. Im wondering what to do for pain and energy. I would be grateful for any information you have on what type of Kratom works for you.

      1. Robin Look into green and red strains,Red and Grteen Ma Daeng is common and known for energy and painkilling effects. Red is stronger and more sedative, possibly stronger pain killing effects as well. Green is more balanced with energy and pain killing effects. Perhaps try some of both, green for daytime use and red for bad pain episodes. Hope this helps and good luck to you!.

      2. Green maeng da!!!! I have fibro and fatigue bothers me way more than pain most days. Like can’t move or think straight fatigue. This stuff gives me focused energy, like a wide-eyed clear-headed feeling, not at all an “affected feeling” so I’m even comfortable using it before work. I use a very small dose in tea. Green bali relaxes my muscles and lets me sleep on days I can afford to. What a life saver!

      3. Hi I’m using Kratom for daily fatigue pain anxiety and depression. I like to mix it up get different kinds of strains each time. I usually do white and green together. I also have my red boreno when I run out for emergencies.

    3. What brand do you use

  8. Please go to the “Kratom for dummies page.. On facebook…not implying anyone is a dummy it’s just a great page with supportive, educated people that WANT to help you understand all about our wonderful tea we have been blessed to find. Then join other support groups connected to Kratom education.. If you have trouble finding them pm me (Laurie E. Blanton) on FB and I’ll send you links. Good luck!!

  9. I’ve recently discovered Kratom, please be careful when you’re using this so called natural product. I have been searching for a healthier way to combat my chronic pain. 40mg oxytocin extended release pills twice a day are my doctors orders. Kratom at a dose of 4 to 6 mgs does wonders for my disposition and physical relief. But beware, I mistakenly had taken 500mgs of tramadol the same day as I dosed with a high amount of kratom. I had a full blown siezure and spent the next 3 days in the hospital. DO NOT MIX the 2 or any opioid with kratom. Using kratom by itself at a dose of 4 to 6 mgs a couple times per week is your safer option. Also, if you are using welbutren, be aware this product lowers your threshold tolerance relating to seizures. High amounts of kratom along with other opioids or tramadol while on welbutren increases your chance of siezures immensely.

    1. Your seizure was caused by a high dose of tramadol. Tramadol causes seizures by itself at high doses but especially when combined with other drugs. Make sure to fully inform yourself so you don’t accidentally misinform many more people. Peace brother

      1. I have fibro and am currently on 10 mg Prozac. How does kratom interact with it?

        1. I have been on prozacfor the past 6 months 60mg a day and i use 20 grams of kratom a day the only thing ive noticed is i get tired now unless i dose high which i think tolarance is the problem after 2 years of daily use they say less is more but then why do i need more and more
          every month iam confused

      2. Thank you for writing what I was thinking. Lol

    2. It is ABSOLUTELY the Tramadol!! I keep seeing headlines and comments that vilify Kratom but when you actually read all the way through, it turns out Kratom was mixed with some potentially lethal stuff. Gee, I shot heroin, snorted coke and took 5 grams of Kratom and for some reason I almost died. Damn Kratom

      1. Hahahahahaha this is amazing 😂😂😂😂

      2. It was O-Desmethyltramadol, what tramadol breaks down into in the body.

      3. that was fuckin hilarious dude well said and nice delivery XD

    3. Tramadol caused the seizures. Not the Kratom.

    4. Please, forgive me for asking a personal question, have you had seizures before Kratom?
      I’m looking into Kratom (and everything else under the sun) as a possible alternative instead of several months on pain meds after my upcoming multi-level ACDF surgery.

    5. I’ve had seizures while taking ultram. It has little or nothing to do with kratom.

    6. I believe you meant to say “oxycontin!!?” “Oxytocin” is a drug they give women to increase contractions during laboe.

    7. Tramadol alone will cause seizures. Especially at that dosage. Stay away from tramadol and gabapentin.

    8. You didn’t accidentally take 500 mg tramadol haha just be honest

  10. Karen
    i am very new to all of this. i used kratom to get off pain meds. i have a lot of metal holding my spine together, they just took a foot of my intestine out of me, i have a feeding tube, many conditions. i have two problems. the guy i get my kratom from is charging me $110. a kilo, i live on a fixed income of less then 800.00 a month, so, it is time for me to do something for myself. the second problem i have is finding a new doctor. with all the new laws that have taken place, because of the pain pill over doses, my doctor just is not the same. i need a dr. that will listen to the patient and not let the gov. tell him or her what to do. i live in phoenix @ my pcp needs to be a internal med..if you can help me any at all, thank you.

    1. Have you found a good Dr yet. My bf is going through the same thing and we are in Phoenix as well.Dr are scared to help. Write letters to all our politicians, health dept. Whoever you can think of. Plus there are chronic pain patients groups you should check out. Ex don’t punish pain,C-50 are a couple. you all need to come together and fight this injustice. Also, Be careful with pain clinics. They are not all certified in pain management. If u found a good Dr. Let me know. My email is [email protected]

  11. Hi guys I’ve been on MS Contin and oxycodone for almost 8 years now and I want to get off I’m starting to have some difficulty with my memory and I am a 51 year old female who desperately wants to come off those meds I hate it I just recently bought the maeng da is there a 30 capsules in the package and each capsule is 0.5. Because I was scared at first I only tried one and nothing happened and then I tried 2 still nothing now I’m up to 4 or five of the 0.5.
    Unfortunately I have a super high tolerance due to cancer I had 23 surgeries my pain doctor put me on the MS Contin the oxycodone and for breakthrough painFentura I am glad to say that I do not take theFentura I haven’t in almost a year but I still have the other medication and I’m trying to find away to make the pain go away it’s hard with the capsules
    I do not mix my prescription pain drugs with the kratom I’m also an RN so I know that would be stupid but I don’t know if I have the right strand or the right dose if somebody out there could just just give me a little help between the two red theWhite the green all that stuff I really want to do this please somebody help me figure out what would be in their opinion the best to go with and if pills or powder are better I would be so grateful I’m at the end of my rope

    1. When I stopped taking subs (I was down to 1mg a day of sub), I had to take 4-6g of Kratom every 3 hours on average. That would be 8-12 of the pills if they are size “00” and each hold .5g…
      Those 30 pills (or 15g) probably won’t last you a day… Buy at least a pound from a vendor if possible.

    2. Hello,
      I have been taking Green Maeng Da powder daily for about 4 years now due to a ruptured disc I acquired during military jump school (Airborne) many years ago. I have tried to use the powder in the pill capsules in an attempt to make my Kratom use more portable and easier. However; the capsules did not work for me at all, I believe it may be something about the capsule not dissolving until it is in your intestine maybe? Anyways, I use a measured 1 teaspoon cooking spoon to “toss and wash” my kratom with my coffee , its gross , but my wife mixes hers in about 2 oz of orange juice and says it isn’t bad. My advice is to order some Green maeng da , or red bali Kratom powder online. Don’t buy capsules or small crushed leaf from a head shop or local store because it will be old and acidic tasting.When you get it,put a leveled teaspoon of kratom into a very small Tupperware container (like for sauces) with about 2 oz (2 shot glasses) of OJ and shake it up. then drink it, and chase it if needed. if that doesnt work do it again about 3 hours later. Kratom will not kill you if you take to much, it will only give you a very upset ,nauseous stomach and make you vomit.Over the years I now take 2 teaspoons at a time about 3-5 times a day depending on what my work load is. I’m a diesel mechanic by trade.

    3. Please go to the “Kratom for dummies page.. On facebook…not implying anyone is a dummy it’s just a great page with supportive, educated people that WANT to help you understand all about our wonderful tea we have been blessed to find. Then join other support groups connected to Kratom education.. If you have trouble finding them pm me (Laurie E. Blanton) on FB and I’ll send you links. Good luck!!

      1. @laurie I tried to find you but cannot!

    4. Im not an expert but it seems like for ppl with a srious opiate habit, tapering their drig of choice with kratom is the.most effective. As in start with a littke less Drug ofnchoice(DOC) than usual and a tiny bit of kratom here and there to delay usage. Then as it goes.on, lessen DOC and increase kratom. I hope that made sense to you. Btw dont use them.together but of tou wake up and use DOC for instance, wait until not feeling its effects to use kratom, then a few hours later DOC and so on.

    5. Go to reddit and search Kratom 101 and “ switching from pain pills to Kratom” tons of good stuff there.

    6. Take a tablespoon full mixed w/cup of oj
      Take it once every 12 hrs & u won’t need the opiates or even want the opiates…I’ve been done w/my opiates for 2yrs now…i took them for 15 yrs…thanks kratom

  12. cant say enough about kratom. its’ saving lives. i know many many people helped get off pills/heroin and get their life back. its going to be legal for responsible use it has to be the benefits are incredible,


    1. Well fuck me, I take way to much.

      7 grams a tablespoon? Dosing once a day, 21 grams a dose?

      Well that’s probably not good.

      1. I take 2 tablespoons at a time about 2 times a day. It’s not too much

  13. Bought some Maeng Da capsules from our local head shop. Not much info on the bottle as far as potency, dosage etc. There are 75 capsules and the label says 37.5 grams. So does that means each pill contains 0.5 grams of powder? The dude at the shop suggested 1pill 2x/day for pain (and I want to quit taking tramadol). I haven’t really noticed any pain relief. Should I take more? Or increase frequency?

    1. I personally have had to take up to 25 pills to stop the detoxing. Approx 8-9 grams at a time 2-3 times a day. Usually 2 times daily as it lasts for hours. Unless its very strong kratom which is approx.25-30 dollars for 2 pills, 1 pill isnt near enough. In 00 capsules 8 to 9 grams is quite a few pills depending on potency. It does work please dont give up. Once you have your dosage down it can be a life saver.I take 4 teaspoons of usually red and make my own capsules. Im sure everybody has their own ways of getting it down but i personally couldnt take the taste so making my own seems to work very well. Its a learning experience but well worth it and I feel stronger and healthier with kratom. It does work for detox it just takes a little more at first till you find a good amount for you. If anything and you take too much it doesnt do too much but make you a little sick and maybe have a kratom hangover the next day. I hope you dont give up, this stuff is magic.☺

    2. I think it’s not working because your not taking enough… you should start by taking about 3 grams at first, and gradually increase not to exceed 6 or 7 grams per dose. one capsule is no where near enough… good luck! Kratom is absolutely amazing!

    3. Yes. Begin taking two capsules in the morning and you should take a maximum of 5 if each contains 0.5. My dose is about 2.7 as I use maeng da for pain (I had my spine fused in January and I’m only 24 so I don’t like taking narcotic pain relievers) and I’m still going up from there. I feel like I’m going to stop at 5g. That’s 10 pills of yours. It sounds like a lot but we’re talking about plant matter, not drug extracts. And I hope you can trust me on this, I used to be a pharmacy technician and I specialized in compounding aseptic material and extracts. 🙂

    4. Yeah, divide 75 into 37. ?

      1. Chris…..thank you for the info….I just started taking the Maeng Da Kratom……I have a bottle of 150 capsules @ 0.5mg…..But no dosage info. Just today I took 11 caps…..feeling much better….I suffer with Major Depression/Anxiety Disorder and I’m treatment resistant to ALL antidepressants. I also have a lot of physical pain due to a knee replacement and many broken bones as a result of a horrible car accident (many yrs. ago) A friend recommended Kratom and I was skeptical at first, but then went for it….It’s an answer to prayer!! I’m still in the progress of researching this “LEAF OF FAITH”…..(There’s a great documentary on Netflix…’s very informative!) My late stepdad was a pharmacist and he taught me a lot. I believe we’re all going in the right direction! God bless you and everyone on this site! 😉

    5. A good does is between 2 -5 grams. But it varies for everyone. I’d start with 4 or 5 capsules if they are .5 gram capsules. Or Do somemore online research

    6. I take up to 6/7 capsules… if it doesn’t help then I usually take 2 more. Since it’s in capsule form you usually have to take more to achieve the right dosage. Just find the amount that helps you but I have friend that take up to 10 coming off suboxone.

    7. I usually take 2 tablespoons of powder kratom. For me, I would have to take 25 .05 gram capsules to equal 2 tablespoons. I have a high tolerance though

    8. I was told to take 7 pills they said that was 1 dose

    9. I’m a 59 yr old woman and was on methadone for 18 years until last summer when my doc left the clinic and I can’t find anyone else to prescribe it so had to quit and that’s when I discovered Kratom ( I used it to get off the methadone) I have fibromyalgia and got bad restless leg syndrome from quitting the methadone and it’s not going away ( been 2 months so far) , so can’t sleep without the Kratom and even that’s in 4 hours at a time ( the drugs for RLS don’t work on me and make it way worse) I’d use one of the red vein like red vein Bali because the reds are better for pain. I bought some 000 size gel as and I put it in them ( don’t buy already made because as they can have fillers!) and I take 6 to 8 of them. that’s about 1 1/2 to 2 teaspoons, not tablespoons and if after an hour you need more take one or 2 more caps until you find your sweet spot where you can feel it and you have no more pain. works great for me. Also, I take white grapefruit juice with mine as it acts as a potinator and can make it stronger. You could try OJ too I haven’t tried that but heard about the GFJ.

    10. Ive been taking Maeng Da powder for a year now I measure out 6.5 grams 3-4 times a day mixed with orange juice or cranberry juice. If I take more than that it upsets my stomach and my eyes do that crazy shaky thing. I’m a recovering addict and will swear by kratom. Not once have I felt the urge to use opiates, the kratom gives me that same feeling the pills used to…it actually lasts longer though. Kratom has saved my life 😁

  14. My last 10 years have been a living hell. I was introduced to Herion intravenously for the first time when I was 18 and had a problem ever since. I had to have alcohol, crack, marijuana, and any opiate I could get everyday for the last 10 years. It has resulted in homelessness, loss of friends and family, costed everything I ever mad, and numerous felonies. This year I decided to go to rehab and spent almost 4 months locked up in a state facility. When I was released, do to severe depression I started using shortly again because I don’t know any other way of life. My cousin seeing me struggling introduced me to kratom. I’ve been taking it for the last 5 months and I have not touched another illegal substance since. Can you catch a habit in my opinion? Yes. But the withdrawal from that is way more pleasant and I can definitely deal with that alot better. I can truly say that I am grateful to have found that alternative. I have my own life back

    1. Eddie if you and I had a drink, we would be telling each other’s stories.
      Keep truckin’, I’m sure everyone here knows your pain, and I personally believe in you, no matter what the case is.

  15. Having a script for oxicotin because of back surgery when I was 21 yrs.old ( I’m 61 now)
    I just discovered kratom..
    I usually run out of my script and have to go through withdrawals. During my withdrawals,I started drinking (again) around 8 months ago.
    Before the drinking,I have a few friends I could buy some oxi’s when I ran out. Very expensive..
    Now I’m trying out kratom instead of using oxi’s
    when I start feeling like I need an extra pill,which will result in running out..I have to say that doing this has me taking my oxi’s the way I’m supposed to…2 a day 60mgs.
    Kratom is far more cheaper. I have a few coffee’s in the morning with 1 teaspoon in each(bali red),only 2 oxi’s a day now and haven’t drank in a week….Its a start..
    Now my girlfriend is talking to me(she wasn’t for a while cause I smelled of drinking) and I sleep much better.
    A friend of mine introduced me to kratom and I hope I’ll continue. I feel better from not drinkin
    and kratom makes me feel sooo much better
    The head shop I go to always has plenty on hand.
    Thanks for reading this where I’m basically a newbie and hopefully I’ll continue on this path..
    My girl wants me to QUIT the oxi’s but I dont know.

    1. Awesome!! Congrats!!

    2. I use kratom to supplement my ADHD medication. It has a tendency to cause me anxiety on the backside of the medication effects, among other side effects.

      Kratom balances out the negative side effects of my ADHD meds very well. My wife said she’s never seen me as even keeled as since i added kratom to my daily supplement routine.

      I also get much farther along in my prescription cycle than i used to because before the kratom i would end up taking another dose of ADHD med to counter those bad side effects.

      1. I have to say for people on here that are mixing kratom and prescription meds you need to be extremely careful because when people mix Pharmaceuticals and kratom you can have seizures you could possibly even die I’ve been on kratom for about 3 years now and the only thing I will mix with the kratom is my insulin and occasionally some Benadryl and I Bridge stories were people have mixed kratom with prescription ADHD medicine and medication to help them deal with night shift syndrome and both cases both individuals had very severe seizures so y’all just be careful

    3. David, I have gone through a very similar situation! Kratom has been a life saver! I’ve never been a drinker. I need the meds for pain. I usually run out. I think you’re off to a great start. I found kratom last yr. Helps enormously!

  16. FYI if you have a harbor freight tools store near you you can get a decent digital scale for relatively cheap ($5 – $10)

    1. If you are really poor, like on disability, you can also get a free digital scale by doing the free trial of Stamps d0t c0m. Just remember to cancel your subscription before they start charging you. (I don’t advocate this for people who can afford a $10 scale, but some people just can’t.)
      Short list of legitimate dealers of real kratom can be found in the kratom section of Erowid.

  17. I’m curious…I found kratom about a year and a half ago and I …like you found a strain that was perfect…but for some reason something is wrong…I ain’t getting the same results like before…I am doing different strains and different doses about every 2 to 3 hours…help me out here and give me an idea on how to get this straight…thanks

    1. Hey, Rick! Sounds like you’re dosing several times a day on a regular basis (please correct me if that’s not the case!). If so, that will shoot your tolerance through the roof fairly quickly as far as kratom’s pain relieving, mood lifting, and euphoric effects are concerned. Regardless of tolerance and dosing frequency, however, the essential sense of mood clarity and stimulation should remain in tact. Try ordering some stem and vein to reset your tolerance. You could also achieve this by taking 2 to 3 days off, pounding a ton of white grapefruit juice, taking diphenhydramine a few hours before, or by taking a gabaergic substance such as gabapentin or phenibut. Phenibut is available for bulk purchasing on line and is very cheap. If you’re interested, try ordering some phenibut hcl powder from LiftMode. They are a solid trustworthy business.

      1. Can anyone help me please? In HORRIFIC PAIN. I took my very first dose of Green Maray today at 1:30pm; only 1/2 teaspoon as I’m so sensitive to things. I felt slightly euphoric and sleepy, but it never quite allowed me to sleep.. I just ‘hovered’ if you know what I mean. It never touched the pain. My question is, since I took it around 4 and a half hours ago (UK time), is it OK to take some over the counter analgesics? Like Ibuprofen or Aspirin? Many thanks. And, if anyone has any suggestions for pain, I sure would appreciate them!

        1. I would start off with one tablespoon.

      2. Where do you buy stem and vein from wana try something like this to reduce my tolerance

    2. Your tolerance is up I’m sure. You can take magnesium. It is supposed to help to not build a tolerance.

    3. U need to find a good supply of it I haven’t been many places but only found one place that carry’s red meng da that actually works the other places sold it super cheap but it didn’t help for my withdrawals whatsoever I suggest going back to the original please u got the kratom from that u felt worked to begin with that’s what I had todo

  18. So basically, one teaspoon is 2.5 grams on average, regardless of what powder you use, however, some of the powder has a more fine consistency and would make it weigh slightly more. The kratom I buy is extremely finely ground, meaning that a teaspoon of my finely ground kratom would weigh slightly above this 2.5g margin. When i weigh a teaspoon of my kratom, it comes to between 2.6g and 2.7g. The way to “measure” the consistency only comes with experience in my opinion, but basically i compress it and then push it down to see exactly how finely ground it is. Mine seems to be even more fine than a grain of sand.

  19. You’re obviously not taking care of the basics sleep hydration nutrition . If you take care if the basics kratom has the same positive effects everyday .

  20. Hi. First of all, i think the dosage chart is pretty good. Second, anyone reading this- if you have cash to buy kratom, you have cash to buy a scale. Buy the scale.

    Third. Kratom can be both a life saver and a life killer. Not only does it depend on strain but also your individual biology, dosage, frequency of use etc. I’m experienced but there was a period of time where i found a strain I really liked and it seemed to fix my life problems. It actually lasted with good effect for quite a while, months, almost a year I think, I really thought it just boiled down to strain, however then i developed stomach problems and also anxiety attacks and loss of appetite. Kratom is a “drug” in the sense that it is psychoactive like other drugs- natural or unnatural- there are physical chemicals inside of it that effect your brain.

    It’s like coffee, right.. coffee can make you feel great or shitty… for me i find kratom is totally random with its effect… one day I think “oh see this thing makes me feel better” and another day I’ll think “holy shit why do i feel so terrible” and it’s obvious on both days that the kratom effects are part of this. I feel like my anxiety is so bad on it right now. I’m not really surprised considering there are so many alkaloids in this plant and it’s hitting so many receptors in my brain and in ways that humans don’t even fully understand. I want to come off of it but whenever i don’t take it I feel extremely tired. Definitely dependent on it in some way.

    I will say this though. The withdrawal really sucks but it’s not very long. The part that’s bad for me is that I already have depression and anxiety problems, so even after fully withdrawn i end up turning to stuff like Kratom for relief, which sometimes helps. I guess that’s what you call a Catch22.

    1. I am about halfway through reading your thread. Were the stomach problems attributed to wanting to take kratom on an empty stomach? I took kratom a few times when it first got big in USA like 2015 Ish, now I take it (toss n wash method) frequently and I don’t want to have those problems. I agree with what you’re saying

      1. Definitely caused buy an empty stomach. Even if it’s partially full. What I’m saying is you need to eat more than a granola bar and yogurt with maeng da at least. I don’t have that issue with Bali. I agree with what AYE says too though. Although I’ve never had a dependency to it. I’ve taken it off and on for about 8 years. Like today’s September 16th, I’ve taken it 3 times since August 26th. So about once a week. The dosage chart I would say is accurate. I sometimes go 3 to 8 weeks without taking it. I have pain fairly moderate to severe but not typically everyday. Aye, I would assume you have daily chronic pain.

  21. Hi. First of all, i think the dosage chart is pretty good. Second, anyone reading this- if you have cash to buy kratom, you have cash to buy a scale. Buy the scale.

    Third. Kratom can be both a life saver and a life killer. Not only does it depend on strain but also your individual biology, dosage, frequency of use etc. I’m experienced but there was a period of time where i found a strain I really liked and it seemed to fix my life problems. It actually lasted with good effect for quite a while, months, almost a year I think, I really thought it just boiled down to strain, however then i developed stomach problems and also anxiety attacks and loss of appetite. Kratom is a “drug” in the sense that it is psychoactive like other drugs- natural or unnatural- there are physical chemicals inside of it that effect your brain.

    It’s like coffee, right.. coffee can make you feel great or shitty… for me i find kratom is totally random with its effect… one day I think “oh see this thing makes me feel better” and another day I’ll think “holy shit why do i feel so terrible” and it’s obvious on both days that the kratom effects are part of this. I feel like my anxiety is so bad on it right now. I’m not really surprised considering there are so many alkaloids in this plant and it’s hitting so many receptors in my brain and in ways that humans don’t even fully understand. I want to come off of it but whenever i don’t take it I feel extremely tired. Definitely dependent on it in some way.

  22. I have been trying to do as much research as possible about Kratom. I have chronic back pain from a bad accident. I’ve had many back surgeries, other back procedures and doctors have put me on heavy pain killers that i just stopped because of all the possibles and pain pills r so over rated. I also take seizure meds that I want to make sure that kratom WONT interfer with. So my question is has anyone heard of that kind of interactions? What would a good dose be with the maeng da be for pain but for also a first time kratom experimentmenter?

    1. Okay I know this post isn’t about dxm but I was lot at some of the comments because I got on here to see kratom dosages. Anyway just thought this might help at least one important soul just because all souls are important I’m gonna give you a brief testimony on dxm. Here goes: I was in a fight with my chick one night and shit got out of hand, the fight was because of DXM.( Done it to the max for 5-6 good years). Anyways that night cops said to give her half of the money in my bank account and to take what I had and stay in a hotel that night. Excuse my grammar I’m not and English professor. So I did what they said. Well I ended up taking a high high dose probably a few thousand milligrams between that night and the next day. Well I started having a siezure like never before and I swear on God and everything I know that I knew it was a fatal one this time. So I contacted gf and she was on the way while I’m dying and sucking water down like it was going out of style. She got there, I go to hospital, start convulsing more, they do chest x-ray and I’m just siezing with foam running out of mouth. Then I flatlined. I had very interesting out of body experience, came back to life and am here to live and tell about it. My friends, strangers, if you are using dxm and are very addicted please contact me my fb is Ashe Sullivan I think I’m the only person with that name and should have pic of me and my gf or my gf and daughter with me. Please contact me I will help you if you want help please. I will go out of my way to help you and coach you on how to stop because it can take your life from you and you won’t get it back and it will be too late to regret it. Please find me on Facebook. Thank you and goodbye everyone.

      1. Please post your experience on Ashe. I and many others around the world would benefit from reading your experience. You may also find that you are NOT alone. Thank you for your time.

      2. I know this has nothing to do with any posts but i see my Suboxone doctor every two weeks and I have to show up positive for suboxone in a urine test. If i take kratom in between the time i see him, will i go into precipitated w/d if i take 4 mg suboxone the day i see him? I’d like to get off Suboxone completely right now but I can’t it’s complicated. I just wanted to know if I can take suboxone the day after I take Kratom not going to withdrawal. Thanks for any help

        1. Not if u are actually stable on the subs. That precipitated withdrawal thing is a lie. U will only get sick if ur dependent on a full opioid agonist, like morphine & such, not if ur dependence is on bupe, or if ur not dependent at all. U can even take them at the same time & the only ill effect would be the possible weakening or blocking of the kratom effect

          1. You can take the sub the same day as the kratom, the sub has no effect on kratom, they work on 2 different receptors, kratom is not an opiate.

        2. You know what girl my husband KICKED with kratom! DO IT! We drink the red borneo and i drink bc i have chronic life long back issues and constant pain. I made him 1 tsp in a big shaker bottle w apple juice and whenever he felt sick he just took a chug. BAMMO! Ive used kratom for years at least 5 now and about 3 years in i cold turkey-ed and was slightly inconvienced for a week, mild withdrawals. I KNOW you can do this! i slowed waaaaay down these days but kratom for pain is my choice these days

        3. I’m on suboxone maintenance as well, and I take Kratom every other day. From my personal experience and from what I’ve researched, there are no I’ll effects. You can take Kratom before, after, or even while on suboxone.

        4. I was on a large dose of tramadol and my doctor said to add Naltrexone and there wouldn’t be any effects but I had full on withdrawal and it was bad.

          1. I despise Naltrexone. It works for some, but it really gave me rough depression. Of course, you need to be at least 7 days detoxed from any opiate/opioid before taking it…unless you want to experience immediate rapid precipitated withdrawal, which is what happened in your case. I’m surprised that was recommended to you seeing that Tramadol binds to the mu opioid receptor sites. Naloxone might have been a different story, but there’s a reason why it works perfectly in the case of Suboxone (correct proportions – buprenorphine/partial mu opioid receptor agonist to naloxone/antagonist). Sorry you had to experience that! It’s horrific. Lol. It happened to me three times with kratom. I was looking to detox and take a short break, and I had ingested an ounce of Malay the night before, and wow…it punched me straight in the face!

        5. I’m sorry for being late but I used subs for awhile and had to get off them 8mg 3 a week…ok so when I got off them I used Kratom and I’m telling you it’s better

      3. No longer on facebook, Ashe Sullivan?

        1. I don’t know if he is. I really hope he didn’t die…🤧😒Dxm killed a friend of mine…… after 4 years…. that shit is nothing to mess with.

    2. I have arthritis in my back and joints from years of carpet installation. I have had a hip replacement and both knees need repaced. I went from only walking a short distance and having to stop because of pain. I took 10 ibuprofen gabupenten. I started using a green kratom in a small amount 1/2 teaspoon a day and I can walk normally now. This is all I take. I just had shoulder surgery from form rotor cuff and nerve damage I took for 5 days and stopped and went back to Kratom. and real good. I also found my mood is better. This has been life changing for me.

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