Strains And Effects

Countless people across the world are learning about kratom in 2020. With so many strains, its important to understand which strain is right for you. Unlike synthetic opioids, kratom’s chemical composition is complex, and the effects of this composition are dynamic.

Its main alkaloids are mitragynine, paynanthine, speciociliatine, and the more minor 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-HMG). Kratom’s neurochemical complexity is echoed in its physiological effects.

It is generally understood that at low doses (< 1 gram), kratom “can boost energy and enhance mood,” whereas at higher doses kratom is sedating, and may have anxiolytic qualities.

The following table serves as a comparative base for some of the most popular strains of kratom on the market.

Click on any strain below to find more information:

Ground Leaf Strains

StrainsEffectsDosage
BaliAn ideal balance of pain relief and energy boost. Bali works somewhat differently than a traditional red kratom. Bali helps achieve a gentle energy boost while maintaining the pain relief expected of a red. Euphoric and the most classic opiate like among the strains of kratom.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Maeng DaEnergizing and stimulating with pain killing effects. Maeng Da takes the normal pain relieving properties of a red strain and adds a nice energetic kick because of it’s specific alkaloid properties.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red BaliSimilar to Bali with some red characteristics. This is a known as a versatile strain.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red Vein ThaiSimilar to Bali with a more classic red strain effects.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red Vein KaliSedating and more classically opiate like. Red Kali is a more traditional red kratom offering pain relief & relaxation.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red IndoSimilar to Red Kali and many other traditional strains. Red Indo is a more tame red vein strain and is often touted as ideal for mild pain relief and relaxation.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Green IndoBalances pain relief and energy boosting qualities. The combination of alkaloids in Green Indo creates a longer lasting milder effect although there is not as high of a concentration of alkaloids as SGM.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Green MalayThis original variety of Malaysian Kratom is well known for its mood-lifting, energizing effects.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Green Vein KaliA stimulating strain which also has painkilling attributes. Green Kali delivers a strong boost of energy without sacrificing any of the sought after pain relief effects. It is know for have a higher potency than Green Indo.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein KaliMore euphoric or dissociating. White Vein Kali is a milder white strain known for its energizing qualities – when compared to Red Vein Kali – while still containing notable pain relief qualities. .1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein ThaiWhite Thai may be the most stimulating of all white strains. There are however less pain relieving attributes than a red vein strain or a strain similar to Bali as a trade off.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein IndoSimilar to Red Indo which is best known for its pain relief attributes. However White Vein Indo differs from the calming Red Indo by bringing a euphoric dissociative kick with it.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White BorneoKnown as a uniquely high quality white strain of kratom. It has known for its long lasting, energizing effect.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Super Green MalaysianKnown for its unique ability to combine the characteristic pain relieving properties of a red strain with the energy and euphoria boost of a white strain. SGM also has some of the longest lasting effects of any kratom with smooth delivery due to the high concentration of alkaloids.1/2 – 3 teaspoons

Kratom Extracts

StrainsEffectsDosage
Ultra Enhanced IndoMost euphoric of the extracts and works well for reducing social anxiety. UEI manages to contain a full range of effects including pain relief & relaxation with a slight energy and mood boost.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Gold Reserve ExtractPowerful extract made by applying highly concentrated kratom alkaloids back to natural kratom leaf. Gold Reserve is a highly potent extract providing a blend of stimulation and pain relief while providing full body relaxation with a notable energy boost.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
ISOL-8 ExtractISOL-8 is an outlier and has caffeine like stimulation. ISOL-8 uniquely focuses in on the energy and stimulating effects of kratom while other extracts generally bring out a broader range of effects.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Ultra Enhanced Red KaliThis extract is made by blending pure alkaloids from Red Vein Kalimantan leaf with high quality Red Kali leaf. This is not made with semi-synthetic chemicals but only all natural kratom leaf alkaloidal extract.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Natural Enhanced True ThaiMade from taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction of Thai Kratom and reapplied to a Green Vein Thai leaf. This extract is a high potency version of classic Thai kratom strains notable for a mild energy boost with significant pain relief & relaxation effects.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Natural Enhanced White SumatraCreated by taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction from white vein kratom and mixing it with White vein leaf. This reformulation results in a more potent version of white vein kratom with significant pain relief and relaxation effects.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)

This Post Has 1,641 Comments

  1. Kikki

    I was a 1/5th a day drinker, and closet heroin and meth user. Ive been to prison for my substinance abuse and just about every sobriety program available in my state. I even lost my daughter when i lost myself to alchohol and drugs. An abusive toxic relationship added to my depression, anxiety, PTSD giving me night terrors every single night leaving me sleepless and craving any form of sedative available. I had taken kratom before i had gone to prison but still using other substances it was just another variety for my coctail. When i finally got out of prison i vowed to try all over again but stick to strickly kratom teas and capsules obviously being on probation any other substinance in my body could send me back to prison. So far i am doing extremely well. I experimented with all the strains available usually going a week on each type to see how i feel. After months of trials i found that White Bali seems to be the perfect balance of effects for me. It gives me a little bit of an opioid feeling which for me helps my PTSD and anxiety, when my anxiety is at ease i find that it gives me more energy and focus. I take 3 teaspoons 2 times a day. Usually mix powder with a little water (like taking a big shot at the bar) and ill tell you the honest truth… Kratom is saving my life. I went from rock bottom to being a normal human with a normal job and husband and home and most importantly a mother again all thanks to Kratom releasing me from illegal ties.

  2. Misty Brown

    2 teaspoons of green Malay once a day is all I need to stay pain free, happy and sober…

    ‘In 2008. I was diagnosed with degenerative disc disease(L4-L5) and epilepsy. That began a whole slew of different kinds of pain pills, injections, doctors’ appointments and pharmacies. I noticed I started becoming addicted to pain pills after I lost my house and my job in 2009 due to my health issues. That and issues going on in my home life slammed me into a deep depression. From then on I couldn’t function without a pill. I’d be so out of it for 2 weeks out of the month because my 30 day supply would only last me a couple of weeks. When I wasn’t pilled up, I stayed in bed and only did the bare minimum in life until my next doctor’s appointment. My pill cocktail was Oxycodone, MS Contin, Soma, Klonopin and fioricet.’
    ‘I was fired from my pain management clinic in April 2019 because I didn’t show up for a per contract pill count. I knew I was 11 pills short so I just didn’t show up! From May to June my kid’s father came out here for my second daughter’s graduation. I had already gone through detox and I think he helped occupy my mind. My plan was once we dropped him off at the airport, I was going to start looking for another doctor. Instead I watched Leaf of Faith, a movie about kratom, on Netflix on June 25th 2019. I learned that kratom is a Southeast Asian herb that many are using for pain relief and to treat addiction.’
    ‘The very next day I went to the local smoke shop and bought some Kratom. And here I am today, sober and staying sober because of kratom and weed! Kratom not only brings my pain level from a 10 to a 3, it also stops the opioid cravings and elevates my mood along with the marijuana. I am a brand-new version of the old me. I am a thriving and functioning mother and member of society again. Kratom and marijuana are the tools I need for sobriety. In all honesty, I am still amazed that I’m alive today. If you think Kratom doesn’t work, then by all means ask me how I am sober, sitting here typing this out. I and millions of others are living, breathing proof that kratom works! Kratom is FREEDOM, kratom is LIFE!’

    ~ https://www.kratomscience.com/podcast/25-misty-brown/?fbclid=IwAR2zoZhzWi_Z2JFkU6Mvw4Yf8h7hVq_giJGH-GSECrmUFzroJE1pVymYi3o

    ~https://southeastbeautifulkratom.com/2020/07/10/we-are-the-faces-of-kratom-we-are-the-faces-of-america/

  3. David

    With chronic pain and no addiction issues(its in your dna not the substance) i prefer my rx. Kratom is super weak and unreliable pain relief.its just enough for those in withdrawl.dependence doesnt = addiction no matter what you think you know. Right now aids, fancer, parkinson and 100 other legit diseases cause chronic pain.hey, if there was something as effective as rx bring it.but they got nothing. Mindfullness and wellness arent automatic or all effective. Its not like u wud go to the gym if your already in pain.and chronic pain is not based in emotional distress. Theres far too much false narratives out there. These panels never incl pain victims.why? Bcuz nobody wants to hear our truth. Fake pc trash. Look up The Healthy People Iniative 2030.its all about changing society. Utopian society is unattainable and only serves the rich.wake up.

    1. Lemmy

      My experience with kratom is different. Red Bali is as effective (for me) as hydrocodone which doctors are increasingly refusing to write. I stock kratom by the kg and have no issues with osteoarthritis. Doctors tell me to take Tylenol and get a yoga mat. Not all strains of kratom work for me, but red, green, white Borneo and Red Bali certainly do! Other experiences may differ but this stuff is a life saver

  4. Aleah

    Also, Natalie, many of the withdrawls from these pills are actually WORSE than heroin. I haven’t kicked tramadol, but I have kicked heroin, methadone, and oxy. Oxy was by far the wiser. I screamed bloody murder for 5 days straight. Because of the other effects of the pills, they can make it harder for your body to adapt to withdrawal. Why do so many ppl post things without having any experience actually going through it? Opiate withdrawal is horrid. We should be supportive because we all have the same desires, relief from whatever is ailing us.

    1. Geri

      So thank goodness I’ve been off all opiates as far as withdrawing goes, for several years. Between 3 rehabs, countless horrid withdrawals, I’m surprised I’m even through it ….
      Since no 2 people are exactly alike, how can anyone get upset just stating there own experience? My worst of the worst withdrawal was Suboxone! I doubt many can relate. However, the hell I went through after tapering for months, was enough to scare me not to ever ‘need’ it again. I was on 8mg for 7 years.
      That was MY own personal experience…..
      I need help understanding Kratom, as far as what’s the best for pain relief? I have major pain issues and I can not take nsaids any longer either. So can anyone make a suggestion? I don’t want to get fucked up and be out of it. I want to function, just with less pain. I can literally barely walk.
      Can someone suggest a morning kratom, and one for pm possibly?
      Thank you in advance for any suggestions you can offer me!

      1. Andrew

        Hi Geri, just as a personal suggestion, I personally like the white/green strains for morning. They provide a nice kick and energy boost to start your day. Super Green Malaysian is a great choice since it provides long last energy along with pain relieving properties. For night, definitely go with a red. Red Vein Kali has been doing the trick for me!

      2. Amber

        I had same horrible experience with suboxone!! I ended up in the hospital 2 days after my last dose and I also will never put myself in a position of needing the crap again. I have a metal rod in one leg that is 2 inches shorter than the other. Long story short I have excessive pain and trouble walking. I take green mang da daily. I take 8 grams 3 times a day but I have been taking kratom for 2 years. It is best to take breaks for best results but I think it’s the addict in me that doesn’t want to go without. I have kicked opiate, suboxone, and meth addiction. Kratom doesn’t get me high….at all. But it satisfies me and is major help with pain. I like the green mang da for the energy kick it gives. Take on an empty stomach and wait a few hours before you eat. Hiwever it is tricky bc you can become nauseas if you over do it. It took me a year to figure out what was best for me and sometimes I wonder how I could reboot my system without taking a break but over all I am happy with Kratom.

    2. Aurora

      Aleah, and any other person whos dealt with opiate addiction,
      What strain did you take to help get through withdrawals?
      Ive been addicted to “street” oxy, so mostly clandestine fentanyl and heroin, for the last 3-4 years where id be snorting anywhere from 2-15 pills a day. Im only taking 2/day as of now, thank God.
      I badly want to get off before Christmas but im DREADING withdrawals. Ive done my research, but i want to know what worked for you and most others.

  5. Aleah

    You sir have no idea what you’re talking about and the information you are posting is dangerous. I work at a treatment center and ppl come into detox all day long from tramadol. Do some research please before you hurt someone. My father has many medical issues and kratom all but eleviates them all. He has had a liver transplant and has heart issues so he can’t take green or white without issues, but red Is perfect. It helps with so many different things! I have known many ppl to get off opiate pills with the help of this powder!!

  6. Ellie

    I was on adderall for years and years and have studied kratom trying to find a blend or something that might work for me? I quit the adderall cold turkey. Thank you for your input, I would love some help with this. I have white vein, red, green, and maeng da green currently. Would any of those help me? I should mention I was on adderall for narcolepsy/extreme fatigue issues. Thanks everyone!

  7. Lil Bit

    Just took my first dose of bali tonight as I’m coming off norcos cold turkey and let me tell ya what! I’m feeling great actually no pain, no withdrawals! I ran to the smoke shop before they closed tonight and I walked out with Bali and red

    1. Boxmaker1974

      So, it’s helping with the withdrawals? I’m on oxycodone and trying to find a way to get off them. Are you taking capsules and if so, how many and how many times a day? Thanks

      1. A Dude

        I found something called train wreck. Was averaging 30mg/day oxycodone until 16 days ago. Stopped cold turkey. I started with 4g in the morning, 2.5 11am, 3pm, 7pm. Not going to say it’s a miracle but the withdrawals could be much worse. Right now I can’t decide if it’s building up. Last 5 days I have had headaches in the afternoon.

      2. Cassidy

        Hi Boxmaker1974, I successfully and permanently quit taking Oxycodone by 1. tapering my dosage, not slowly, but rather steeply (over less than 2 weeks from (6) 20mg pills per day down to (4) then (2.5), (2), (1.5), (1), (0.5), taking each lowered amount for only 2-3 days before stepping down the dosage again.
        2. As my dosage got down to about 2 pills and lower I began using the Red Bali strain of Kratom. My method of choice is to microwave about 1/2 of a mug of water to very warm (not piping hot or boiling), I then stirred in 1/2-1 teaspoon of powdered leaf, added some splenda and downed it in as few gulps as possible followed by water or Gatorade. You MUST hydrate because it is a diuretic. This was a pretty strong dose, which was necessary at the time, but it does give a relaxing, pleasant, and sedating feeling that is very much like an opiate.
        If you’ve had to take Oxy for extended periods of time, you know that it losing all the pleasant sensations and it just becomes necessary to take to avoid withdrawal, which I can attest is hell on earth. Years earlier I had stopped a high dosage of Hydrocodone cold turkey, and my former husband stayed by my side every night while caring for our 1 year old baby during the day (I was a stay at home mom who normally did 90% of the baby care, and loved it).
        Quick backstory: I had 13 major surgeries from age 36 to 49, basically one a year. 3 open chest, multiple ovarian and cervical, coccyx removal, finally a full hysterectomy, right shoulder and then right hip. Well meaning pain specialists and surgeons would have me on a morphine or dilauded IV post-op, and then prescribe pain pills upon release from the hospital. I would always taper off the meds once my pain was manageable with tylenol. And then I would have to have another surgery…rinse and repeat. Following the 13th surgery (hip) I had severe chronic pain that would not let up, so a pain management Dr prescribed 5mg, then 10mg and eventually 20mg Oxy. I finally hit that point where I was craving more than my prescribed dosage, running out early, and it wasn’t even helping with my chronic pain, only numbing my brain so that I was out of it all the time, sleeping constantly, and not being the kind of mom I wanted to be, because I wasn’t “present”. So, by this time my child was 10 years old. I finally quit for good in 2017.

        I can absolutely attest to the use of Kratom making withdrawal almost non-existent, and once all the oxy was out of my system I lowered my kratom intake dramatically, as in only using it on occassion for severe pain. The rest of the time I get by on Naproxen Sodium (prescription strength Aleve) and Gabapentin (a non narcotic which helps with a number of medical issues besides pain).
        I’ve had bloodwork, MRIs and CTs numerous times since I began using Kratom, and my kidneys, liver, pancreas, heart, lungs and brain are all good. I have read unsubstantiated reports of Kratom causing liver damage and high blood pressure, but my liver is healthy and I have low blood pressure 100/70 or less. I’ve actually hoped Kratom would raise mine a little because low BP makes me feel faint (a side effect of Myasthenia Gravis).
        I have never had feelings of withdrawal from Kratom, and sometimes go weeks without using it. I really do reserve it for pain so severe I scream into my pillow. I don’t want to take it daily, despite the feeling of euphoria that it can give. I know it’s in my cabinet, but don’t crave it. If it were a bottle of Oxy I’d be chewing up 2 or 3 pills, or worse…snorting it! Through the well intentioned practices of my doctors I am officially a recovering opiate addict. If Kratom operated in the brain the same way “true opioids” do, I wouldn’t be able to get enough of it. I know of people who use Kratom daily, usually a white strain that is more energizing than euphoric and I have yet to meet anyone (via chat rooms) who had anything even approaching the kind of withdrawal that many of us have experienced due to heroine, crack, meth or any Rx opiates, like Oxy. If they’ve had any Kratom withdrawal at all, it has been minor and manageable.
        I can only speak for myself, but I credit Kratom with making my FINAL time quitting Oxy an easy and pleasant experience. I can also say that, for me, Kratom is a lifesaver when my chronic pain turns into a bout of almost unbearable pain. Without it I would definitely be looking for a Pain Management Doctor to prescribe an Opioid medication, and my nightmare of addiction would start all over again. And just to repeat (in case of trolls who didn’t read thoroughly) I now only use Kratom for sever pain maybe a couple of times a month, or less. I am not a daily user. I did not replace my 6X a day Oxy addiction with daily Kratom use. I use it in a “break glass in case of emergency” way.

      3. Maria

        I was taking 40-80mg oxy/day for 3+ years. I just started Kratom this week and no withdrawal! Truly unbelievable. I was hopeless wondering how I would ever get off of them. Try it- you will not be sorry!

    2. Cassidy

      Good decision Lil Bit. It was successful for me. Kratom is a lifesaver for withdrawals, and I haven’t touched Oxy in more than 3 years since quitting with the help of Kratom (Red Bali). And once I was through with withdrawals I easily and painlessly stopped using Kratom daily. I now use it only when I have severe pain. That’s what works for me, because I didn’t want to replace daily Oxy with daily Kratom, even if it is a much much much healthier alternative. I’ve learned how nice it is not to be in a fog and to have clear thinking!
      Sending good thoughts!

  8. Jerry Lynn

    I started taking Keaton to wean myself off of Tramadol. After 1 month I had a blood test and my liver enzymes were elevated. I was taking another 12 grams a day. I have cut back to 4 a day. I am scheduled for another blood test. If it is still elevated I will not take anymore. I am hoping a reduced amount works because I have slept well with no hangover.

    1. Destiny

      Hey I am looking into taking kratom to try and wean myself off of tramadols as well! I’ve been on them for a while now and it’s so hard to go without. Which strain kratom do you use and how does it effect you? If you don’t want to answer I completely understand

      1. Austin

        Tramadol is NOT an opiate.. you will not have withdrawals off of it… you don’t need to wean yourself off of tramadol… smh..

        1. Mr Bungle

          … yes it is, lol

          1. Kat

            Tramadol is a synthetic opiate and there are withdrawal s

        2. Riley Tinny

          You’re out of your mind!! It’s a synthetic opioid. I went thru hell coming off that shit

        3. Michelle

          TRAMADOL is an opiate and the withdrawal effects are brutal.
          Where did you get your info? You couldn’t be more wrong.

          1. Aaron

            You bet its an opioid…. Its not an opiate but a synthetic opioid. Thats why its listed as a schedule 1 narcotic requiring a physicians prescription to obtain it. Its listed as a controlled substance for a reason. You are absolutely right my dear 👍

        4. Nichole

          You’re absolutely right that it’s isn’t an opiate. It’s a seratonin inhibitor! Not too many people know that. It tricks your brain into thinking you have an opiate. But you can have some terrible W/D from tramadol as well.

          1. Brandon

            That’s how its advertised yes. They also advertised oxycontin as non habit forming with no withdrawal. I personally have had withdrawal from tramadol as well as use tramadol to help with opiate withdrawal. If it’s not addictive and not at all an opioid, then me along with countless others that have actually been on the drug must all be sharing in a crazy hallucination because it most certainly behaves in every way like an opioid.

          2. Mo

            Please stop spreading misinformation. First and foremost, it is an opioid, it acts on the same receptors as other opioids. However, it also has a weaker SNRI mechanism where it inhibits the reuptake of seretonin and noradrenaline. So it’s not a seretonin inhibitor, because such a thing doesn’t exist! It doesn’t “trick your brain”. Shocking, the amount of people who will spread misinformation on something as serious as this…

          3. bobhoskins

            sorry but although it does have the effect the same as an snri or ssri, that was an unintentional effect and it 100% IS AN OPIATE. Albeit a synthetic one, it is an opiate.
            because of the SSRI or SNRI side effects, it makes coming off tramadol absolute hell..

          4. Natalie

            Omg the withdrawal from Tramadol is SO TERRIBLE. Hahahahahahaha if you all think that’s terrible withdrawal then you are clueless. Try withdrawing from IV heroin or methadone… trust me you would laugh too.

        5. LJ

          I beg to differ. I was on a 200 mg time release Tramadol tablet once a day for 4 years, until some Dr. told me he would not prescribe it anymore, did not feel my MRI showed that I should be in pain. Quack. So I stopped cold turkey. It was the most horrible feeling. I got chills, nausea, headaches, and my back pain had returned full force. Then I heard someone mention that Kratom helps ease withdrawal symptoms. Well, it is a miracle worker. That was January 2016 and I still enjoy the pain relieving effects of my daily Maeng Da kratom. By the way, you should research the effects of Tramadol withdrawal from others. There are plenty out there that know the misery of stopping that monster suddenly.

        6. Carrie

          Yes you most certainly do get withdrawals from Tramadol and they are worse than typical opiate withdrawals. Just because it’s not a traditional opiate doesn’t mean you can’t become physically addicted. I should know.

        7. Jermia

          Are you high?

        8. Pebbles

          Actually talking to many drs and pain management drs and pharmacies Tramadol is harder to kick then heroin Tramodol never did anything for me. I didnt get high from it and it never worked on my pain. I was on percocets but not many places will fill it and the ones that will play dr and want test results and or isnt adding anymore patients for that rx. But like what everyone says these opiod pills or tramodol or whatever ur taking. Everyone reacts different to addiction or weaning or cold turkey so u cant say that whomever is taking tramodol doesnt have withdrawals yes they can just becuz u didnt doesnt mean the next wont. Also taking pain pills can also increase ur pain level and have a counter effect of what its suppose to do.

        9. Kathy D

          Yes, you will have terrible withdrawal from Tramadol. I went through it and it doesn’t give good pain relief for me.

        10. Maggie

          It’s a synthetic opioid. It is also … wait wait get this …. a derivative of morphine.
          100% an opioid. Withdrawal coming off of Tramadol is hell. Also it lowers your seizure threshold. Drugs.com, web md… they will all tell you this.

      2. Cassidy

        Please read my story above about how I used Kratom to help me through quitting Oxycodone. I have taken Tramadol in the past as well, so I absolutely understand what you are dealing with.
        First, let me clearly state that I am by no means a doctor (however I am in a medical profession) and I have very thoroughly researched Kratom
        I would recommend using a Red strain such as whatvI used, Red Bali, during opiate withdrawal and cessation. After the first week, tapper off the Kratom to a low daily intake, or just stop altogether. You will not have withdrawal symptoms, and you will not have an addiction to Kratom. That is my opinion and my personal experience. You can later use Kratom for pain, though I would suggest switching to a more energizing white strain that still has pain relief properties. And I would urge you not to use it daily, though many people do without the problems that pain medications cause. It can help with energy, sleep, pain, anxiety, depression and more. Research strains to find one that meets your needs best.
        I wish you all the best, and I really hope you quit Tramadol. That is so highly addictive and a poor pain killer to boot! Sending good thoughts out to you and prayers up for you my dear! (((VirtualHugs)))

        1. Cassidy

          Sorry, there were a few typos and a misspelling in my post. It is TAPER off not tapper, Doh! I was typing too fast.

    2. Boxmaker1974

      Are you finally through the withdrawals? I’m trying to find out how long it will take me.

    3. joe

      Did you take Michael or Alex or Diane?

  9. Winona

    I have dealt for years with anxiety that is literal and physical and hard to deal with. I became alcoholic to deal with things I couldn’t deal with, which as everybody knows is no way to deal with anything. I had counseling forced on me by my job, no help, they all kept throwing pills at me. I started taking kratom to sleep after years of insomnia (that can make you feel crazy all the time), I’m now up to 3 doses per day: 5 grams in the morning, 5 in the afternoon, and 10 to go to sleep. I always use red. Green makes my anxiety worse . If I don’t take my kratom the awful physical anxiety comes back, and I can just forget about sleeping without kratom. Three years and it still works for me.

    1. Heather

      Winona, Keaton has been a God send for my insomnia. Have you noticed any changes to your hair? I have never had something help me chill out and focus this much, ever but now I’m tapering and noticing less hair shedding. I am at a loss.

  10. Ed McLendon

    Kratom works for pain and that is why I take it everyday. I do not have a family physician who will give me anything for pain. I tried to get help but there was none out there for me. I heard people were using kratom to wean off opiates. I do not have that problem. I tried it for my chronic pain and it worked! I treat kratom with respect because I know it is addictive. Every six months I wean myself down to zero grams very slowly over the course of about a month. This keeps my tolerance levels from getting too high. Yes the pain comes back and I tolerate it the best I can. Three grams three times a day is a sufficient minimal dose for me today. Digital scales are a must for accuracy when slowly dosing down.

    1. Eric

      Ed I’m trying to learn more. Any recommendations? I am solely looking for pain relief assistance

  11. Pharmerdavid

    I’ve been addicted/dependent on opioids for most of the last 50 years (65 this year), including cough syrup in the beginning, then pain pills and heroin, methadone the last 20+ years, currently 30mg. daily The pain clinic I got it from went out of business recently, because of covid-19. They sent my last two monthly prescriptions to the pharmacy, to last me until I can get into another pain clinic. I took a nasty fall a few days before going to pickup my second monthly prescription of methadone, smashing my shoulder very hard, but they wouldn’t give the methadone prescription to me until the next day, even though it had been 30 days. They claimed the pharmacist gave the first prescription to me a day early by mistake, and they couldn’t give it to me before the date written on it, even though they had the previous month. I was in pain and withdrawal, and panicking, but instead of getting heroin, I went straight to the herb store, and got some Bali Red Kratom. It really helped with pain, and got rid of the withdrawal symptoms too. It’s been a week now, and even though I have a month supply of 10mg. methadone tablets, I’ve been using kratom instead, and it’s really working. I cap it up in 00 size vegcaps, which is 1/2 gram each, making titrating my dosage easy. I take about 7 grams in the morning, and afternoon, then 10+ grams at night. I don’t like the feeling of taking too much, after trying a 15 grams dose and even 10 grams is too much during the day. It makes me feel foggy, unbalanced, and jittery when I take too much. I took 7 grams a couple hours ago, and that is just about right, might even be a bit high. At bedtime, however, I’ll take considerably more, because sleeping is very difficult for me. I also take valerian, melatonin, kava, chamomile, holy basil, ashwaganda, etc., along with the kratom. Last night was hard, and I had to take my morning dose during the night, so tonight I’m taking a larger dose. I’m a weenie when it comes to pain and withdrawal syndrome, used to go straight to heroin when the methadone supply got interrupted, but now I know kratom is all I need. IT REALLY WORKS!!!

    1. Nicholas

      Hella happy for you my guy, can’t even imagine what being addicted to opiates for 50 years must have done to your life. Glad Kratom works for you and u don’t have to suffer anymore for the most part

  12. Amber

    I have Fibromyalgia & was diagnosed 2 years ago, by 2 different doctors, in the past I was prescribed opioids because my doctor at the time didn’t really know exactly what was going on, fast forward 10 years & ive been taking suboxone because of course there’s no way even with Fibromyalgia to get good pain relief, Also many doctors are now realizing that ppl with Fibromyalgia have had horrible pain ect. Well this is where Kratom comes in, I am left with no relief for pain even taking suboxone without doctors knowing, FOR ANYONE wondering how Kratom helps get off Suboxone, once you start with a white strain that is stimulating along with pain relieving, you will eventually forget to even take the suboxone, that’s exactly what has happened with me!! If anyone wants more information or insight on how this works for getting off all pain pills & suboxone & also ADHD medications, you eventually will completely forget about these meds!!

  13. Mel

    White strains are THE BEST for pain relief and energy boosting !! I was on Tramadol for 3 years and finally found something to help me get off them!

    1. Stephanie

      Mel, do you take the capsules? How many at a time do you take?

    2. Susan Mitchell

      after15 years of on/off soma, xanax, for spinal injury, then 10 months of percocet, went to detox md for suboxone, it was the worst 4 years of my life!!! Pain relief, yes that is why he put me on it, said for chronic pain and do not need other meds.
      made me gain 30 lbs, small frame person, had no desire for pain pills, but overweight, pain started (after 4 years, 2 strips a day) in a total fog, short term memory loss, I was a mess!!!!!
      I trusted MD, supposed to be best!!! He stated I would be on suboxone for rest of my life,
      One day, after nearly losing my family, I went off cold turkey
      worst withdrawals ever, as a health care prof, it was all my secret! I had restless legs, shaking , insomnia, but the Lord got me thru it!!
      that was 4 years ago, I had 6 other back surgerys since, no opiates for me, Take 1.5 grams of red bali in am, and lost over 40 lbs, feel great and positive, the occasional muscle relaxer is needed if I over do things, but I have my life/work and family back
      Mind clear and happy, If I stayed on suboxone, could have never gone thru necessary surgeries, and I would not be around,
      Listen to yourself, anyone who feels addicted, try one day at a time, titrate off, and start over, Krotom is great for me a little does a lot!!! Good Luck and be happy and healthy
      Of all the Rx’s I have ever taken, I believe SUBOXONE to be the poison on this planet, something to get you off opiates caused me more damage, who doesn’t want to be present in their life? Suboxone put me in a 4 year mental fog and made me so impulsive and the Queen of bad choices.
      Anyone who reads this, you are never alone!!!

    3. Ana

      What brand do you use? I’ve been using capsules…How many grams do you use?

  14. Vincent

    I have used opioid for over 30 years. All of them. Pure train wreck to detox. Subs take you thru the detox but only to get hooked on them. 30 days of pure hell. I used kratom this time to shack Mr Jones and the hell to pay. It really helped. Wasn’t so bad and could get off the feeling like death train. I still take kratom two years later. If I stop taking the kratom I sneeze my ass off but don’t feel any withdraws. I’m telling everyone it is a God send to us and to unlock the chains big pharma has locked one down with. Come on. If I can brake the chains then you can to with kratom.

    1. Dedra Snowden

      Is this hard on your liver

    2. Kim

      Thank you for being forthright. I’m in the same boat and am having reservations because I can’t find relief. I wanted to end it all yesterday. One day at a time. I’m happy you fared well with the opioids. I pray to don’t concede. You have inspired me not to give up the fight. Ty

      1. Deva

        I know how you feel Kim and I’ve tried before so I promise you I know.ive also been hooked on every opiate from codeine to injecting pharma grade fentanyl and kratoms all I use now.so it absolutely can make a difference

    3. Michellr

      Hi Vincent
      I’m currently wanting to ween off of suboxone does this truly help with side effects or is it still hell with withdrawals I’m really scared to feel withdrawal symptoms thanks for any input you may have

      1. Natga Natalia

        This will help big time. It will even bypass any withdrawal you would feel if you stopped the suboxone Before weening. Kratom is truly a miracle substance. I used opies for 2 decades. Now I’m completely sober. It’s pretty fabulous. I’d recommend a red or Bali to start off. But honestly any Kratom will do…

        Good luck, you cam do this.

    4. Dakota

      What strains do you use? I take 2 30mg oxy every day want to quit

  15. barbara

    Hi Judy, I like that you did your research. Could you tell me how much white malay I should start off with and how many times a day? Also where do you buy it? I’m very concerned that it be of good quality.

    1. Luke

      1-3 teaspoons for a dose and I take up to 3 doses a day. Kats botanical has a really great kratom selection.

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