Maeng Da Kratom
As a high potency strain, Maeng Da delivers a punch.
It brings many of the pain relieving qualities expected of Kratom, but with a much bigger stimulating boost. However, unlike other stimulants, the energy boost doesn’t come with any jittery, unfocused side effects.
MAENG DA EFFECTS
The details
Maeng Da was specifically created as a high potency red kratom strain in the humidity and heat of Indonesia. Similar to Bali Kratom, Maeng Da blends pain relief and energy into one. However, in order to beat the heat in Indonesia, this strain was made to provide a bigger kick in energy than Bali.
the difference
Because of it’s specifically bred for alkaloid properties, Maeng Da takes the normal pain relieving properties of a red strain and adds a nice energetic kick that some reds lack.
the science
Maeng Da Kratom was created using a technique called grafting, where tissues of different plants are joined together to breed different qualities of each plant into a new strain. In an effort to create a strain which maintains pain relief while mitigating sedative effects so it could be used during work in Indonesia, Maeng Da was born.
hello all. I am a recovering opitae addict still using heroin and fentanyl. I had read that kratom effects the opiate receptors in the brain, and in some cases has actually been effective enough to get people off of opiates. at the very least, I am hoping to get relief from withdrawal, which I believe I read the maeng da to be the best in that capacity. unfortunately everything I read on the internet says something different in regards to the effects of the different strains. all I know for certain is that kratom is the only known plant aside from opium poppies to act on the opiate receptors. I just need some direction to go in, as I would like to soothe withdrawal discomfort as well as some euphoria and stimulation. Thank you to anyone for reading this, and any comments will be appreciated (yes even the comments bashing my addiction :). Thank you again. Positive Energy Activates Constant Elevation.
I normally don’t reply to these, just read and move on but I felt you could benefit from my reply. I have been using opioids on and off for the last 4 years. First recreationally, then was in an accident that had me taking them for a long time. I have tried weaning off with no luck and then go on binges. Today after about 24 hours of not taking anything and the onset of withdrawal I remembered kratom… I went and bought the strain mentioned. I took about half gram in the car as soon as I got it. Literally poured it into my mouth and used water to swish it around. I sat there for about ten mins and the cloudiness in my head and vision went away… I felt happier, more energetic (not in caffeine way but opioid energy). About 20 minutes ago I actually mixed about 6 grams(3 teaspoons with water) again taste HORRIBLE but here I am 20 minutes later and I feel slightly euphoric, headache gone, body feels good. This is just wild. Absolutely recommend.
@downtownhumanoid. I also meant to say on my last reply; the fact you’re an addict who is able to admit that and are genuinely seeking help and advice, looking for alternatives, and researching is a wonderful thing that no one should bash. You have done what most people won’t do and that’s admit you have a problem. Whether it’s to a room of family, or an anonymous poster in a forum, you’re admitting it. Even small steps forward is in the right direction. You got this
Two years 40 a day. Previously 2-3 30’s a day.
I quit. Went through three days of misery, small piece of suboxin on day 3, one big spoonful of Maeng, leg cramp pills. (4), day four better, day 5-6-7 roller coaster of betterness! Three weeks later Im motivated as f… working 12 hour days. Over it, so happy!!! Life is so awesome without that bull…. you can do it. Every othrr day i still do a spoonfull of maeng. Good stuff. Good luck!
3days!!!!!! Thats it! Then its smooth sailing
Maeng work for you? Are u still taking it? Been on perk 15 @5 plus a day. Tried the red Bali it’s ok but not real sure on how much to take. Gonna go buy the stuff you are taking, hows it going so far for you? Any suggestions would be great. I had 3 major surgeries in 2 and half years 2 back and hip, also attached by neighbors dog 4 weeks post OP for hip. So yeah chronic pain as ll the time but the pills run my life
I used it for Fentanyl patch withdrawals and it takes about 70% of the withdrawals away! It truly helps. I took a teaspoon to start with
Good luck I sorry you have to go thru this
I used heroin, meth, fentanyl and if you want something to ease the WD I would highly recommend taking kratom. Just make sure you come off of is over time not all at once. coming of of both of those drugs can kill you just be careful. I wish you all the best.YOU CAN DO IT!
I was on a pain Management program and went to my appointment to find the facility shut down. I didn’t even know what withdrawal was at that time. My friend introduced me to kratom and it took my pain and withdrawals away. I was buying blue magic maeng da for it’s pain releiving properties as well as mood enhancer. I normally bought a 30gram bag for $10. I was taking 4-6 grams twice a day.
Please try your very best to quit the opiates!! I lost my best friend and love of my life 3.5 years ago to a fentanyl overdose…keep up the research and QUIT! ❤️
You can. Do this from a. angel mom
I feel your struggle, and you must get to a headshot ASAP, I list a life long friend to black heroine and I wish 3years ago I would have known about Kratom, because it actually works, helped me stop and I think I KNOW it will help you too!!
Yes, maeng da will help your withdrawals . I’ve successfully used to WD from heroin and Suboxone
Hello Angela can u please let me kno how to take it am trying to get off heroin I last used a lil about 30 min ago and I went and bought some kratom because I want to stop using I want to kno when should I take the kratom do I have to wait until am in full withdrawals or when
Addiction sucks but kratom should help ease the withdrawls. Prayers buddy
I know exactly what you’re going through, and I know it’s not easy but it is necessary. anything worthwhile takes effort and hard work. The withdrawals and sweats are terrible but after about 5-7 days it’s all over except for the mental changes. At least the physical is NO longer painful. I tried many d’s 30mg capsules and it’s a good pain reliever for all them aches. I try 2 or 3 at a time and it’s very helpful for all those aches
Hi! I was taking tramadol. 10 per day. I know alot of people say that tramadol isnt even a narcotic, “non narcotic they say. But let me tell ya. The withdrawls from this stuff is absolutely horrible! Thankfully I found kratom. It has been 6 days since my last tramadol and feel great! Good luck to you!
I need any advice. My 18 yr old daughter just finally came clean about what shes been doing. She was first taking xanax, then went to something otc called “triple C’s” which apparently she almost died on. To get off of those, she started taking percocet, but it quickly escalated to smoking percocet. She is refusing to go in to rehab, but wants to stop. She is going through incredibly painful withdrawals. I have a friend who suggested Kratom. I went to the local head shop, bought Klarity Kratom capsules, 750mg. If anyone could help with dosage and any recommendations at all, I would really appreciate. Its killing me watch her in so much pain, and i haven’t slept in days for fear that she will take off to get more pills in the middle of the night.
Any Maeng da would do green in the day red at night. And try kratom extract chewables. Start with 2 gs and go every four to six hours. Do it in teas don’t toss n wash
5-7 grams of Kratom will take the edge off while withdrawing. If you have half gram capsules that would be anywhere between 10-14 capsules every couple of hours.. kicked opiates not too long ago and Kratom worked for me. Good luck to you guys.. hopefully she sticks to it.. the painful part of the withdrawals last 4-5 days.. also get her immodium AD for the diarrhea.
I’m 23 I went through the same thing. I just smoke bud now but instead of doing those things I heard about kratom. I enjoy the maenga da and the white strains. I usually take 8-13 capsules that are size 000 and 500mg each capsule. Your tolerance can build up fast but you can switch up strains to avoid that. There is a too much point. Throwing kratom up is gross. You should start her on 4-6 depending on her tolerance.. if she doesn’t feel it within 30mins to a hour, sometimes longer, then get her to take a couple more
Have her try 6 capsules at a time every 5 hours or whenever she starts to feel withdrawals again. After a couple of days try 5 capsules, then 4, then 3 etc. you may decide it is beneficial to continue taking the Kratom for a while before you taper down while a treatment plan is established and she develops some healthy coping mechanisms. Kratom was a life saver for me and enabled me to come off percocets, adderall, etc. I still take Kratom but not nearly as much as I did when going through WDs. Best of luck and let me know if you have other questions.
If the capsules are about 750mg and she has no tolerance to Kratom already 4 capsules should be a good start she may not feel it the first couple times if she does not then continue to up the dosage every day until the effects are felt if she has taken too much a fatal overdose is extremely hard to achieve she may get nauseous and vomit and if she has taken too little she will feel nothing the effects are very subtle but enough like opioids to ease some of the withdraws
start her at 2-5g per dose, i was/still addicted to morphine, percs, opiates… i take a about 3gs as soon as i wake up. usually want to puke up the pills(take with a flavorful juice). hop in the shower and start getting the kratom burps. by the time im done with my shower the slow moving, aches and pains all start to dissapate. drink lots of water, and be weary of headaches at first. ibuprofen helps as well, and immodium ad(get the generic ones from dg that are tiny) is actually a synthetic opiate that doesnt include uephoria. the kratom will help with the euphoria hunt. i reccommend green maylay(day time), great energy, great analgesic properties(pain relieving) and lasts a few hours compared to most other strains. A red strain is great for night time, or an indica strain for bedtime.
Buy powder instead of capsules. You get more for your money plus she needs to break the habit of swallowing pills. The powder goes great with grapefruit and orange juice but you need to have a container that has a lid on it so you can shake vigorously to mix it. Or a blender works. The citric acids enhance the alkaloid content of the kratom, thus making it a bit stronger from what I understand. You can also buy kratom extract. This stuff is absolutely amazing at alleviating opioid withdrawals. _____ Kratom is incredible for opioid withdrawals. I kicked a 10 year opioid dependency in a single day by taking kratom.
Hi Blake. I’m not going to get anyone and on your ass much but anyone and everyone knows that you don’t and can’t kick a 10yr opiate dependency in one day. Sure the first day isn’t as bad as day 3-5 and beyond sometimes. I have found that after about 2 weeks the body will accept that the drug isn’t there. I have also found that it’s the brain that causes all the grief. There’s a reason that many 30 60 90 day rehab programs don’t work for some people. The brain remembers how wonderful opiates made us feel. I loved it. If you’re not strong mentally it’s so easy to say something like ” I’ll just try for old times sake”. If someone would lay a pill or 2 in front me I was taking it. Even after six months. Today is 1 yr since I stopped the hydros/oxys. Somewhere along the way I found Kratom. Maeng Da was my choice. I have terrible neck issues. No way do I desire surgery. Usually I will do a heaping tablespoon when pain is so bad. Not everyday but every other day. Depends on level of pain. I Some might think that’s a lot but not for me. Well, didn’t start out to tell some of my story. I just wanted to say that I think that after 10yrs addicted that I felt it’s impossible that you were over it in a day. I guess maybe be truthful with yourself. I hope you’re not looking on the street for anything. Fentanyl seems to be mixed in a lot street stuff these days. It’s no lie. The street stuff is TRULY DEADLY.
Hi Blake , thank you for your input. I was having difficulty with mixing and I will try your recommendation . What is the ratio of powder to liquid and what strain do you use?
Your daughter is a liar triple cs are not addictive so she didnt get on percs to change that. At 18 she hasn’t been on them long so the kratom will work. Kick her in the ass and tell her to straighten up shes to young to be acting like she been on pills for years
If you can avoid having to take the subs, please do. I have had so many friends who started using them to get off of opiods and found out that they were just as addictive and much harder to get off of. I will be praying for you 🙏
@Andy In response to you calling this woman’s daughter a Liar and your general harshness, this is a forum where everyone deserves compassion and respect. And you have no idea how long her daughter has been doing triple “c” s. Yes, I know what they are and you’re misinformed that they’re not addicting. What happens is the body reaches a point where they no longer provide the high… So it’s completely realistic that the use of triple Cs would lead to opiate use over a period of time.
Andy I just went to rehab for triple Cs. They are so addictive and can kill you so easily. They are a dissociative anesthetic and hallucinogen and are the most nightmarish trips I have had in my life.
Be supportive as I’ve done both there are very little withdrawals for triple c’s brand name is corciden cough and cold and can be bought at any pharmacy. Xanax can be dangerous. Just show her how much you love her and keep her close
How is your daughter?
I am looking for the positive-feel good feeling I get with opiates. I am not addicted to them, but find that when I do take them, I have more focus and a can do attitude. So a combination of focus/energy/positivity. I was told the Yellow Bali Kratom is the best for what I am looking for. Advice?
White Maeng with a kratom extract chewable does it
Kratom extract chewable? Can you provide more info please?
The biggest issue now is money. Getting enough kratom so that I last the month, while also having to take as little kratom as possible to get pain relief. This stuff works amazing on pain, better than any opioid I have ever taken, and with maeng da it takes very little, two capsules is almost always enough, but on very bad pain days I may have to double that, but I never need more. I’m having a lot of trouble getting the powder to dissolve completely no matter how long I stir it, I do have a keurig strainer, at least I believe I ahve what you’re talking about, a small single cup sized coffee filter meant for coffee, and the kratom works just like regular coffee grounds, only I’m not sure it’s as easy as run water over the kratom, the powder has to actually dissolve in the drink. If this continues to be difficult I may just toss a handful of capsules in and wash down with a drink, problem solved. I’m hoping to find some actual kratom pills or kratom tablets, since a couple of times the capsules have come apart half way down, but I’m not having much luck with that, they don’t seem to exist. My smoke shop supposedly has them, I’ll check in a few hours when they open. Hard to understand why this stuff is available over the counter, but I’m extremely greatful it is, finally an OTC pain reliever that actually works and works reliably.
Have you tried your dose with kratom extract chewable they woo boy kick it up a knotch
Last adventure was me going to the doctor about a week ago, asking for either more tramadol or dosage instructions on kratom. Was told several times not to mess with “that herbal stuff” take tram instead never go over, follow the doctor so on and so on. Tram is the weakest of the effective opioids, so for my pain takes at least 100mg, sometimes as much as 200mg to kill it. I have gone as high as 4 grams of maeng da kratom for pain relief, 4 1 gram capsules. Kratom tea sounds like a great idea. I have a keurig, I wonder if I can open some kratom capsules in a mug, drip my coffee or tea over the top, stir, put sugar in, stir some more, and drink. I bought the capsules partially because messing with powder was very messy, partially bevcause capsules are already measured so it’s easier to stick to one amount, but mostly because I had people coming up to me when I was out and about making comments like, what’s that stuff, you know that’s probably illegal, and so on, got tired of defending kratom. Keurig doesn’t actually boil the water, just heats it up to around 100 degrees f, and kratom isn’t very water soluble. I have only red maeng da kratom, at least until my next order shows up, then I’ll have some gold. How many capsules should I open for kratom tea? 2 to 4 g? I neevr go over 4g unless told because maeng da is a very potent strain, supposedly, and you don’t need much. I’ll make me a cup now actually. I feel like some pain relief.
I would do this have you ever heard of a keurig container strainer you can put your kratom in it and let the hot water strain through it helps to not get all that kratom mess in it also don’t forget to soak the kratom in lemon juice makes the alkaloids stronger. How is your day going?
Very new to kratom. My pain story is abbreviated so it’s less painful, pun intended. Have moderate scoliosis and was started on naproxen 500mg twice a day, did nothing. Went up to tramadol 50mg wice a day, did nothing unless doubled, then trippled, doctor lectured and finally cut me off, tramadol withdrawal is absolute hell, no energy, constant insomnia, restless leg syndrome and feeling as if you’re going through the day and night with no energy, and with a hair trigger temper or crying reflex depending on the day. Got sick of begging from my own damn doctor every couple of months only to get a couple of months worth of not nearly enough pain meds, found online pharmacies. Ordered 100mg tramadol every, single, month for 260 bucks per 180 pills pack. Found that ineffective, went up to 100mg tapentadol, 350 for 120 pills pack for nearly 3 years straight. Finally decided enough was enough when my bank account was overdrawn by nearly 500 bucks, was turned onto kratom. I’m visually impaired so powder is out, too messy. I actually like the taste of it, it’s rather tea like with a slight bitter edge to it. I buy red maeng da capsules, 1 gram capsules, 88 bucks for 200 of those. I take 2 grams five to six times a day. I want pain relief that’s as effective as the tapentadol or better. I’ll never be able to get off opioids entirely, but with kratom, if I can get the dosage right I’ll take it instead of my opioid pain meds. Is my dosage right? Should I find another strain or kratom vender? The kratom at my local smoke shop is top knotch despite everyone’s oh buy online comments along with knowledgable salespeople, they take it themselves so don’t just go duh, I just work hear.
Hey Kendall Clark love the name if you need a strong pain reliever I suggest red Maeng da and you only need two teaspoons. Red Bali works good too but not as strong and I suggest you steep in a tea or oj because you will get stopped up doing toss n wash. They have how to do kratom tea on here but I boil water and but kratom honey sugar lemon in a cup let it sit for two minutes than pour the water in than stir real good than let it get cold. You will feel so good. But also I would try a green in the morning not a red like green Maeng or green Malay. You feel so sedative. Ever want to talk my email [email protected]
I have to ask because it’s happening to me and it’s gross. But my bowels are extremely loose and I use kratom everyday I have to severe depression and anxiety with back pain. I use about 12-15 grams of kratom a day with a huge bottle of water mixed with an energy shot. I don’t know what to do because I don’t want to stop the kratom because how well it has worked just need some help. My email is [email protected]
So some of y’all are getting kratom at vape shops or gas stations and online I would highly just recommend going on google look up kratom shops near me. I live in Oklahoma get my kratom from artisans botanical and it’s so much better because that’s all they do. Be careful because some of kratom can have salmonella
DO NOT mix Rx meds with Kratom!!!!
You mean no anti anxiety pills? I honestly dont even need them with kratom but my body starts to feel the withdrawal from benzos.
I have been in pain management for almost 7 years and have tried everything under the sun. A Genesight test revealed that a lot of opioids just don’t work for me so lately I have been on Fentanyl 25mcg every two days and 3 Diluadid a day. No pain relief and I am absolutely unable to take as directed-more should be beer right? Nope- my pain got worse on 10 oxymorphone a day! so my doctor concluded I have OIH- opioid induced hyperalgesia. The cure? Go off em. So, of course not wanting to jeopardize my standing with my pain doc, I just did it myself (my next visit is in 10 days and I have no clue what I am gonna say. This will probably be a random drug test day too, you know?) So the first two days were solid hell. Today, feeling slightly better I called a friend who has 40 years clean and he gave me a doctor’s number who is a friend and works in a detox. I explained my whole fucking pain story and what am I gonna do now for pain relief? Wow, you’re kinda screwed he said. Then he suggested Kratom as well as seeing a rheumatologist to see if there might be an auto immune aspect to my pain.
I found a place nearby that sells Kratom and bought some red and “yellow” (says from Maeng Da) and took a teaspoon with OJ. Nothing. Took another 1/2 t a few hours later. Nada. This stuff is foul. Any ideas?
Also, does anyone have experience with not exactly having a stomach? I had a gastric bypass 17 years ago so I have a small pouch and no pyloric valve. Everything just dumps right into my small intestine. Any idea how this might affect my dose or preparation?
I have no experience with the gastric bypass, however, 300mg gabapentin 3x daily helped me come off of 420mg oxy for 12 years. That should be manageable for you.
They do sell tinctures that will really help avoiding the stomach issues.
Dee! I don’t have a stomach either. It seems it takes more for me to get the same effect but definitely works still
I have to take at least 10 mg of red meng da kratum to get any effect. It is very nasty tasting stuff. I have to hold my breath as i chug it down and then immediately chew some gum to get rid of the flavor.
Hi Jim and all…I’ve been taking Kratom since July 2018 after 20+ years on opioids of all kinds for chronic pain and nerve damage arthritis etc.it took a while but I found the best way to avoid the toss and wash I found is to use OBLATE discs or even easier oblate cones. U simply fill them with Kratom & one cone I can manage about 3.5 g of powder. So a few of those and you’ll be good. You dip in water fast place it in your mouth and swallow with water. You can find videos on you tube about how to use them SO SIMPLE and no more nasty taste! If I had to keep doing t/w I would have gone to capsules or quit I could not stand it. Even trying everything from juice to apple sauce. After the first few you get the hang of it and its fast. You can weigh each as u make it on on g scale. I don’t know why this is not more well known thing to do it really is a game changer. Best of luck to everyone!
I use Gabapentin to help me come off oxy. 300mg 3x a day. if not enough 600mg 3x a day. do some research and see.
You are taking too little! I agree it’s super foul. Buy gelatin capsules and swallow it. Without gel caps it’s too gross to take in the desired dosage range.
Yup buy gelatin capsules that what i do 500 gor 9.99
Parachuting works better with about a tablespoon wrapped up in a little piece of toilet paper and swallowing it whole with a bunch of water! Do that every 2-3 hours as needed and you will notice that it helps aliviate pain in the body as well as tension headaches from body pain.
Hey dee iam a recovering drug addict i tried to get off with kraton could not my doc was giving me to many narcotics..after rehab i started to take kratom again and now it works. For me but you also have to make the decision do you want to be addicted to something else because Kratom you will have to detox off of it and when you don’t have it you will go through withdrawals just like you will anything else so you have to weigh it out and see what you want to do but most definitely detox first and then deal with the pain relief later maybe Suboxone might help you or maybe even methadone I’m not saying either one it’s clearly your choice but I’m just suggesting there is also a Kratom called Trainwreck it seems to work for opiate detox it’s kind of a mixture of all of them and I’ve heard good things about it I took it and I really didn’t see much difference but this was after I had been taking the Kratom for a while so maybe give that one a try. But you’re definitely going to have to make some up and try different brands for day and different brands for night and I would suggest watching it out so you don’t build up a tolerance
hello, i’ve been trying to quit meth cold turkey for the past few months and having better luck each and every time but i really want to be off of this crap. Anyone have any suggestions as far as dosage/ and what strain? suggestions in general are welcome! thank you
Red maeng da half gram twice a day
Thats nothing for this guy, half gram twice a day??? More like 4 grams 3 times a day and work down or you will be back on the meth asap.
Really really bad advice and before you respond I am a natural drug award winner, there is no debate on this. Written two books already on this matter.
Hi Jason, I would like some of your help. If available. Lisa
Jason…Preach.
Then u can prolly abswer some of my questions. If u dont mind. Basically ive been using kratom for abt 2 mos now. I have chronic recurring epstein barr virus n many orthopedic issues. Im off pain meds n feel great as long as i take kratom. I needed something for energy n got the white thai which has worked wonders. I also started thw red bali for pain which again gives me the energy i need but not so much for pain relief. I just ordered green maeng da hoping that will work. I think my problem is that im taking enough. I only take once a day but only take a teaspoon. The enrgy is there but again not so much for pain issues. Any suggestions would b grately appreciated.
2tsp as needed, I used red indu, been clean from suboxone almost a month. However it becomes addictive its self and can cause withdrawl opioid like
I use meng da Kratom red vein variety. 10 grams every 5 hours or so. I am coming off 420mg oxy per day, prescribed by pain Dr. for peripheral neuropathy pain. I am in week 2 and it is manageable. So far no sweats, no diarhea or vomitting, only feel very cold all the time.
Go for either the Malay or Thai strain. It’ll work trust me.
White maeng Da my buddy was into it and quit after rehab and every other thing failing.
The green would help you would still have energy and your mental health wouldnt go so depressed and angry.
This stuff is amazing. Upset stomach but ginger stops it.