Bali Kratom

Bali Kratom, just as its namesake island, is an ideal balance of pain relief and energy boost, smoothly blending many different effects of kratom into one.

Whether you want to rest your weary bones on the soft sands or work up a sweat riding the waves, Bali is the choice for you. It is often held up as the standard to which all other kratoms are compared. 

BALI EFFECTS

Relaxing
VERY EFFECTIVE 83%
PAIN RELIEVING
EFFECTIVE 70%
MOOD ENHANCING
VERY EFFECTIVE 85%
STIMULATING
EFFECTIVE 67%

The details

An ideal balance of pain relief and energy boost, Bali Kratom works somewhat differently than a traditional red kratom.

the difference

While many reds are sedative, Bali manages to give a gentle energy boost, while maintaining the pain relief expected of a red. Bali is also known to help with relaxation and brings a mild sense of euphoria.

the science

Bali Kratom has traditionally been one of the most popular strains, due to its higher potency and blend of properties. For many years, Bali was one of the only strains available. While the effects match the relaxing, revitalizing islands for which it is named, it has been discovered that Bali may not actually be from the Bali area.

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  1. eric

    Can someone please tell me the best kratom strain for insomnia..
    was on subox for 5 yrs for pain mgmnt.. bad decision. also never was on anything illegal
    now i am off suboxone for almost 2 months.. please tell me that eventually my sleeping will resume to normal..
    sincerely eric

    1. Scott

      Sorry to tell you this but sleep is the last thing to return from subs use. It’s a horrible drug. I should have went through the 2 weeks of detox off oxys instead I was a slave to subs for 10 years. I’ve been clean 3 years 4 mos and I still have days where I feel like I’m in withdrawals from the subs. I’ve used “slow” strains of kratom and theyve helped a lot. Good luck.

    2. April

      Eric—*im not a physician but I would suggest giving yourself a Kratom break for a few weeks and trying 25-50 mg of Benadryl (never more than 50 mg!) about an hour before going to bed. That means consistent bed time, lights out, no tv, and maybe a cup of Kava or Chamomile tea to start relaxing you before bed. Good luck dude!

    3. Ras

      I used kratom for Suboxone withdrawal and it was the only thing that worked. And I had a 20 year opiate habit. In my opinion a quality Chocolate Bent is one of the best leafs for insomnia. Obviously everyone reacts different to each strain but this particular leaf has worked great for me for insomnia…

    4. Arron

      To be honest I have found both meang DA green kratom and also Bali kratom known as red Bali to both work very well and help with withdrawals as well I was on pain meds for 6 years and have been off for now 4 months they helped a lot even with sleep and also getting energy as well and pain

    5. Maya

      It will. I had exact problem. My doc (who has no clue I was on subs) prescribed anti-depressant Trazadone. I take 50-100 mgs every night. You must take it on an empty stomach though. I sleep like a baby and feel very rested the same day. Plus, docs do not have a problem prescribing it.

  2. eric

    I was on suboxone for 5 years for pain mgmnt. I am off of it now for 50 days BUT.. I have been not sleeping at all.. maybe 4 hours every 3 days.. I tried maeng da and it helped with energy fot the day and calmed down the fight ofr flight feeling.
    Can anyone please tell me the most effective Kratom for sleep..PLEASE HELP
    God bless and thank you kindly

    1. Rose

      Bentuangie is the best strain to help you sleep. There’s red bent, chocolate bent, and super royal bent. For me, I use Super Royal Bent. It helps me fall asleep, but more importantly, I stay asleep. I have problems staying asleep, but one dose of Super Royal Bent keeps me asleep for the whole night,

    2. KratomDocotr

      Red bali is a great strain, to be honest any red or green can be good for sleep but most enjoy reds.. You just gotta find a batch of kratom that works for you..

    3. Maya

      It will. I had exact problem. My doc (who has no clue I was on subs) prescribed anti-depressant Trazadone. I take 50-100 mgs every night. You must take it on an empty stomach though. I sleep like a baby and feel very rested the same day. Plus, docs do not have a problem prescribing it.

  3. Nattt

    Red Bali is knows for its pain relief idk how it got only 70% of pain relief when red kali got a 91% for pain relief. I think these results are a bit flawed. Red Bali has the greatest pain relief effects and is a partial mu opioid agonist. Oxycodone acts as a weak agonist at mu, kappa, and delta opioid receptors within the central nervous system (CNS). Oxycodone primarily affects mu-type opioid receptors as well. Diluadid binds to several opioid receptors particularly the mu receptors where most of its analgesic effects come from. Fentanyl the most potent synthetic opioid analgesic, it selectively binds primarily to the mu receptor which is why it is the most potent opioid analgesic reserved for people with high tolerance and severe chronic pain. Red Kali kratom has more sedating effects not pain relief. This is because Red Kali stimulates alpha 2 andrergic receptors causing sedating effects, which might make people seem they are experiencing more relief from pain but that is not the case. Although all kratom effects all receptors they vary differently depending on the type of kratom altering selectivity, bioavailability, and potency on the brains receptors. Kratom contains an alkaloid mitragynine (9-methoxy-corynantheidine) and 7-hydroxymitragynine. 7-hydroxymitragynine is a highly selective mu- and kappa-opioid receptor agonist, acting mainly on the former subtype. Mitragynine is a partial mu-, delta-, and kappa-opioid receptor agonist, but can also act on the 5-HT2A serotonergic and alpha2-adrenergic receptors, as well as neuronal Ca2+ channels. Red kali has such strong sedating effects because it is an αlpha2-andrenergic agonist which it primarily acts on. Although it still acts on the other receptors as well it selectivity differs toward each receptors. Alpha 2 agonists inhibits and reduces brainstem vasomotor center-mediated CNS activation. Used as centrally acting sympatholytic vasodilators. This means it antagonizes or inhibits the transmission of nerve impulses in the sympathetic nervous system. Alpha 2 agonists are generally used as an antihypertensive, sedative, & treatment of opiate dependence and alcohol withdrawal symptoms like clonidine and tizanidine. Red Kali kratom is favored for an anti-anxiolytic due to its sedating effects because it reduces a persons heart rate and blood pressure from it’s sympatholytic properties. Red Bali also has depressive effects but from binding to the mu receptor as all opioids do to decrease pain having greater analgesic effects over Red Kali.

    1. Jackie Kendro

      Holy cow!! I got more information from you on Kratom than the last 2 years of research! You need to write a blog. I get such conflicting information on different strains, and it’s hard to choose new strains. Thanks so much for your time to comment!!

    2. Dean gekas

      Great write up Nattt. Did you mean to say that Red Kali is favored as an anxiolytic ( you have anti-anxiolytic) to reduce anxiety? Anti-anxiolytic seems to infer against anxiety reduction.
      I’m about to start RK for the first time to assist with psoriatic arthritis pain and trying to find the appropriate dosing. Any thoughts as to mg dosage to start with? Thanks

      1. Tiffany Early

        You don’t need much because the more you do you f up your tolerance I suggest doing one teaspoon in a mint tea or camolli tea I can’t spell sorry. But I used to toss n wash and found after awhile I got extremely sick backed up and pain and then the heresy squirts. So I would do the tea but do it right so you don’t ruin the kratom. I would suggest soaking the kratom in lemon juice before pouring hot water over it then put your normal tea in it. Idk why but the lemon gives it a punch. Do you do kratom in the morning? I would suggest green Malay

        1. Kristy

          I put my Kratom on a kitchen scale, weigh it by grams, and add it into my protein shake. Can’t even tell it’s in there.

    3. Noel

      Thank you Nattt! This was great information!

    4. Iahel

      Thank you a million for this good, clear, organized & helpful info! Many blessings!

    5. Jellybean

      Thank you for that info…it gives insight and understanding as to why each works the way it does and giving opioid drug similarity. I wish every safe and healthy understanding and usage. Thanks again.

    6. Del F Hurley

      Th for you knowledge of kratom. Can you tell me about the Thai kratom. Trying to get off pills totally. This seems to be helping but I’m concerned if i will jabber a dependency for this as well. So far this brand has best effects without feeling tired.

  4. Sam Weaver

    It’s great to know that Bali kratom is a good stimulant that helps in achieving and overcoming body pain. I will share this with my sister who constantly complainm about his upper and lower back pain. Due to the stress her work gives her, she seldomly notices her posture and the way she sits and that could probably be the cause of her back pain. Hopefully, I can find a health store that sells Bali kratom and share it with my sister.

  5. Bob

    I just ordered Bali for my first time trying. I’ve had 15 surgeries,have severe anxiety and have been taking lexapro Wellbutrin,3 blood pressure meds and of course hydrocodone 10s and tramadol for many years. What is anyone’s experience for the best one for severe pain? I hope it works as I would love to get off these other meds. Thanks

    1. Rebecca Smith

      In Sweden some kratom pills on the market were found to be a mixture of kratom and Tramadol, which led to several deaths. Of course I don’t know how much tramadol was in the tablets, how many pills were taken by those affected. However, without knowing more, I would never take the two together, I’d be too afraid to. There are several published reports from doctors online that describe what happened.

      1. Hope Channell

        Tramadol is the devil itself.

        1. Ajax

          So true. Tramadol is evil… cant believe I stayed with it as long as I did. Severe back pain kept me reliant upon it. Now 1 week free of Tramadol and morphine and I couldn’t be happier.

    2. Heather

      Almost exactly the situation on my end. Should this be taken in the AM to help get through the day, or in the evening to help relax and/or sedate? I’ve heard conflicting stories as I do realize that if affects people differently. Thanks in advance!

    3. April

      Bob—Kratom should be used with caution by people with high blood pressure!

  6. Loren Bayer

    Ok, I am trying kratom, and I’m not sure what to think! Cant sleep well, anxious all the time, i hurt, throwing up, BP meds, awful…I’m scared because reading the info is confusing! I am not looking to get high or anything! Just trying to function as a normal adult, I’m done with doctors! And last ER visit they sent me home saying I tested positive for meth! I told them I don’t do meth! I am a heart patient! Come to find out Zantac will give you a false positive! Google it!!! I have had a seizure, a heart attack, motorcycle wreck with steal rod from my knee to my ankle all in 2 years, I’m only 38 yrs old, and I feel like I’m 83. I don’t know what else to do! Cant be smoking weed forever either! I just need to know if this is really safe or if it’s just a fluke! Or should I just go to the nut house?

    1. Elizabeth Hamlin

      I have a list of different meds and over the counter that gives false positive test. I admin a few groups and just stepped down on another group. I found it too hard to do all three. Kratom is safer than anything you’ll find. The fda spreads Faldo info. The news media tells what they’re told before knowing the facts.

    2. Gregory Gallegos

      Have been taking to help with pain as well as managing my bi po mood swings. Start my morning off with 3 grams, then have 2 grams through the day about every 3 to 4 hours. Another 3 grams after lunch, and 4 grams of a different strain for sleep. I’ve been doing this for about 2 months now and I am doing way better than I’ve been in a while. Obviously this is different for everyone so as always, monitor yourself and learn what dosage works best for you!

  7. Rachel

    I’m new to this. Doing my research. I have RA. And PTSD. Also bi polar depression. I hate antidepressants! And I’m on suboxone. Is it safe to take with suboxone? And how is it taken via powder? I’ve heard they sell capsule’s at smoke shops

    1. Stephanie

      Hi Rachel, I’m also new to taking Kratom and I’m also effected by many of the same health problems as you. I’m also on Suboxone and have been for many years now. I did not experience any negative effects when I took the first type of Kratom I tried with the meds I’m currently on. It might depend on strains and all that, so just be smart and take caution, as with taking any new medications or supplements. I started with the Maeng Da strain of Kratom, just FYI. Would love to hear back from you and I hope this helps. Good luck with everything.

    2. TIFFANY EARLY

      I find mixing white boreno with green mayla is the best for me. I have major depressive with anxiety and ptsd.

    3. Mike

      I used Kratom to get off Suboxone. I just weened down from 2 strips to 1.5 for 3 days, to 1 strip for 3 days, to .5 strips for 3 days beforehand. I immediately went straight to 25-ish grams a day of kratom after that. The first week or so takes some adjustment, as you have to get your personal dosage right. I was taking too much a first and would get dizzy but eating usually fixed that. I started taking less at once (1.5 teaspoons at a time, rather than 2+) but more often (every 2-3 hours rather than every 4-5). This worked well and the “withdrawal” from the Suboxone wasn’t really that bad at all. Little sweaty and restless the first few night but nothing like normal symptoms.

      I’ve been using kratom ever since to manage pain and to generally feel better. I also quit drinking and smoking cigarettes around the same time. I have no desire for alcohol while taking kratom though quitting smoking was harder. It is manageable, though, when you aren’t drinking alcohol (which goes hand-in-hand) and the kratom helps take care of the restless anxiety in nicotine withdrawal.

      As for taking the powder, I got a shaker bottle (the kind of protein shakes) and I put 2 tea spoons in there with about 2 cups of water (or iced tea, juice, whatever). It’s gritty and tastes bitter at first (you get used to it) but I will often sweeten it with honey, sometimes a lot. To help with inflammation I will also add 1 teaspoon of turmeric and fresh ginger for taste. This little cocktail doesn’t really taste too bad and has effects that no pharmaceutical medication has ever had.

      Powder is cheaper than pills and head shops are super expensive, do not recommend buying from those places often, though they do work in a pinch. Try finding a place online where you can get kilos for under $150. I have several places I buy from and most are very good. I personally like Green and White strains in the morning to boost mood and energy and Red for pain at night. I mix them together in different proportions as needed and I rotate strains so that I don’t build up any tolerance to any single type.

      Been of opiate medications and Suboxone for over 3 years now because of kratom. You’ll be just fine too!

      1. Joy

        Is this true you really came off subs? With Kratom? I’m sick right now but got some Bali and feel OK. It’s only day 3 without my meds.

      2. Candace

        Hi, what website do you recommend to order from?

        Candace💗

    4. Tony

      You can buy a capsule maker and capsules online. Way cheaper and u know what’s in them! There are videos on YouTube that show you how. So much easier 😉 good luck!

  8. Rachel

    I’m new to this. Doing my research. I have RA. And PTSD. Also bi polar depression. I hate antidepressants! And I’m on suboxone. Is it safe to take with suboxone?

  9. Anthony

    hello Ken first of all Im sorry to hear about your situation about the tapering ive also been noticing the weaning off of many legitimate non cancer patients of their pain medication. In regards to your to your question i take kratom daily for pain and depression ive had abdominal surgery and have dealt with psychical pain myself i was on pain meds for a short time before they cut me off when i was still in severe pain. Of course no one listened so i was forced to medicate myself i had already knew about kratom but always took it for recreation. So i tryed the Red Bali and saw a dramatic difference in both physical pain and the mental anguish that comes with it. Anyway i highly recommend you try Red Bali Kratom start with 4.5 to 5gs to see how u feel then adjust dose as necessary just don take with your pain meds thats Important. It has helped me threw so much and am glad i started taking kratom instead. Hope this helps a little bit and good luck.

    1. Lalee

      Anthony…you said “ don’t take with your pain meds” ..do u mean not at the same time? Or not at all if you takes pain meds..?

  10. Ken

    Reccomendation please for someone who has been treated by the “good doctors” with escalating dosed of opiods following multiple surgical procedures and serious medical illnesses. Now the “good doctors” are forcing legitimate chronic non cancer pain patients off of their opioid medications they have been taking for years by tapering their doses. A 10% decrease each month is their standard approach. How could Kratom be used for pain relief and sleep at night to help tolerate this weaning program.Opinions please,I understand there is no exact science in Kratom realm.

    1. Anthony

      hello Ken first of all Im sorry to hear about your situation about the tapering ive also been noticing the weaning off of many legitimate non cancer patients of their pain medication. In regards to your to your question i take kratom daily for pain and depression ive had abdominal surgery and have dealt with psychical pain myself i was on pain meds for a short time before they cut me off when i was still in severe pain. Of course no one listened so i was forced to medicate myself i had already knew about kratom but always took it for recreation. So i tryed the Red Bali and saw a dramatic difference in both physical pain and the mental anguish that comes with it. Anyway i highly recommend you try Red Bali Kratom start with 4.5 to 5gs to see how u feel then adjust dose as necessary just don take with your pain meds thats Important. It has helped me threw so much and am glad i started taking kratom instead. Hope this helps a little bit and good luck.

    2. Ginger McGer

      My mom had the same thing happen to her. I just discovered Kratom a month ago. Got her started in Maeng Da – 3g in morning and again late afternoon. Before this without her oxycodone she could barely walk and was housebound due to her severe pain levels. She’s 75 and was abruptly taken off her oxy. Was prescribed tramadol and on it for 3mo before her PCP decided it was enough and referred her to an addiction doctor. 😡 My mom has degenerative disc disease, fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, chronic kidney disease and is diabetic. The doctors have completely disregarded all of this. I’m sick of doctors. Good luck to you.

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