Strains And Effects

Countless people across the world are learning about kratom in 2020. With so many strains, its important to understand which strain is right for you. Unlike synthetic opioids, kratom’s chemical composition is complex, and the effects of this composition are dynamic.

Its main alkaloids are mitragynine, paynanthine, speciociliatine, and the more minor 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-HMG). Kratom’s neurochemical complexity is echoed in its physiological effects.

It is generally understood that at low doses (< 1 gram), kratom “can boost energy and enhance mood,” whereas at higher doses kratom is sedating, and may have anxiolytic qualities.

Red Kratom Strains are generally known for their dynamic pain relieving attributes.

White Kratom Strains are often have a characteristically euphoric nature. You may even find some qualities of your typical red strains with the addition of an energetic kick.

Green Kratom Strains are best known for their unique ability to combine some of the pain relieving properties found in red strains with the energetic boost of a white strain.

The following table serves as a comparative base for some of the most popular strains of kratom on the market.

Click on any strain below to find more information:

Bali An ideal balance of pain relief and energy boost. Bali works somewhat differently than a traditional red kratom. Bali helps achieve a gentle energy boost while maintaining the pain relief expected of a red. Euphoric and the most classic opiate like among the strains of kratom.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Maeng DaEnergizing and stimulating with pain killing effects. Maeng Da takes the normal pain relieving properties of a red strain and adds a nice energetic kick because of it’s specific alkaloid properties.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red Vein ThaiSimilar to Bali with a more classic red strain effects.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red Vein KaliSedating and more classically opiate like. Red Kali is a more traditional red kratom offering pain relief & relaxation.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red IndoSimilar to Red Kali and many other traditional strains. Red Indo is a more tame red vein strain and is often touted as ideal for mild pain relief and relaxation.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Green IndoBalances pain relief and energy boosting qualities. The combination of alkaloids in Green Indo creates a longer lasting milder effect although there is not as high of a concentration of alkaloids as SGM.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Green Vein KaliA stimulating strain which also has painkilling attributes. Green Kali delivers a strong boost of energy without sacrificing any of the sought after pain relief effects. It is know for have a higher potency than Green Indo.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein KaliMore euphoric or dissociating. White Vein Kali is a milder white strain known for its energizing qualities – when compared to Red Vein Kali – while still containing notable pain relief qualities. .1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein ThaiWhite Thai may be the most stimulating of all white strains. There are however less pain relieving attributes than a red vein strain or a strain similar to Bali as a trade off.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein Indo Similar to Red Indo which is best known for its pain relief attributes. However White Vein Indo differs from the calming Red Indo by bringing a euphoric dissociative kick with it. 1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Super IndoSimilar to Bali with less euphoria.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Super Green Malaysian Known for its unique ability to combine the characteristic pain relieving properties of a red strain with the energy and euphoria boost of a white strain. SGM also has some of the longest lasting effects of any kratom with smooth delivery due to the high concentration of alkaloids.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Ultra Enhanced IndoMost euphoric of the extracts and works well for reducing social anxiety. UEI manages to contain a full range of effects including pain relief & relaxation with a slight energy and mood boost.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Gold Reserve ExtractPowerful extract made by applying highly concentrated kratom alkaloids back to natural kratom leaf. Gold Reserve is a highly potent extract providing a blend of stimulation and pain relief while providing full body relaxation with a notable energy boost.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
ISOL-8 ExtractISOL-8 is an outlier and has caffeine like stimulation. ISOL-8 uniquely focuses in on the energy and stimulating effects of kratom while other extracts generally bring out a broader range of effects.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Natural Enhanced True ThaiMade from taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction of Thai Kratom and reapplied to a Green Vein Thai leaf. This extract is a high potency version of classic Thai kratom strains notable for a mild energy boost with significant pain relief & relaxation effects. 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Natural Enhanced White SumatraCreated by taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction from white vein kratom and mixing it with White vein leaf. This reformulation results in a more potent version of white vein kratom with significant pain relief and relaxation effects.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)

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  1. Von

    I have chronic back pain due to 2 deteriorating discs and 2 ruptured discs in my lower lumbar, I have severe anxiety as well, my primary care had me on 5 mg hydrocodone for pain, that did not help at all and 10 mg xanax for anxiety, since the opioid crisis, my doctor wanted me to choose which one to drop,can you believe it
    So i chose to drop the 5 mg hydro, since it did not help at all, I went to Neurosurgy and spine assoc. To get the epidural steroid injections,
    It helped but the after procedure pain is worse than my regular pain and lasts about 10 days before it works, it is horrible , the last time i had a injection was April of 2019, pain left me for over a year, when previously it only lasted for 2 or 3 weeks, The pain is back and I am not going through any more of those horrible injections. I had heard of Kratom so went to a smoke shop, I got Earth Kratom brand Trainwreck capsules, it says serving 5, which felt like a 10 mb Hydro, I don’t take it everyday, took 5 this morning after breakfast and it does not feel as strong,
    Can anyone suggest what is the best brand and strain for pain and anxiety, and how much to take, also what is this about the metals, that has me concerned

  2. Mary Parker

    Hi I have Severe fibromyalgia pain. I stopped narcotics for it and have been on Kratom about a year it’s the only thing that has helped my pain. I take anywhere from 15 to 25 gr a day. If I’m addicted to this I don’t care. If it’s not Kratom I would be addicted to narcotics. I cannot take the daily pain without it .

  3. Ellan D

    My sister gave me a shot of Borneo Keratom. Powdered, tea style. I did not expect to wake up and find my chronic lower back pain gone in the morning.

  4. Lauren

    Hi all! I love kratom! I am in recovery as well, was a train wreck, alcohol and cocaine mostly, but when that stopped working i switched to iv heroin/coke. I overdosed 3 times nearly died. I haven’t had a drink or an elicit drug in 3 years and 3 months. I started using kratom about 1 year into sobriety, i really struggled with “using” and whether i could say i was still sober but it’s saved me. I use white maeng da or Bali. I overuse all substances, have a crazy metabolism, i take 5-10 grams not every day, usually at night. I am not worried bout what people say about me not being sober, i haven’t been to the hospital, in an ambulance or jumped out of any windows (broke my leg trying to sneak to the liquor store) in 3 years, don’t have any desire to drink or do street drugs again, and that’s a miracle. I’m very grateful. Take care everyone!!

    1. Damian

      Hey I’m super happy for you I’m recovering still I don’t know how long I just know it’s been a while n I’d honestly not say what but I’ll just say it was bad but on a for real note I’m really happy that you found something natural to help you I’m a big natural substance supporter but not a natural substance abuse supporter but for real congrats on your recovery and sticking with it I never knew the strength people needed to recover from substances until I had to myself (honestly am happy for you and all the people recovering in this world

    2. Nina

      I can 100% relate to you….i also overuse and abuse everything and anything. Kratos has literally saved my life. I 100% agree with you that Kratom(a natural herb) is waaay better than any kind of narcotic!!! 🙌 Glad to hear you are doing well and feeling good! Stay with it! 💯💯

      1. Nina

        *Kratom not kratos….stupid auto-correct! 🙃

  5. Desirae

    What are the false accusations on red boreno kratom and what makes them false?

  6. Mark Neuhaus

    I am taking Vivitrol/Naltrexone and was wondering if there are strains of Kratom that can be used at the same time?

    1. Aubrey

      This is my first time taking this! How many capsules do I take? I’m confused with how many capsules is whatever grams! Please help!

      1. Michelle

        It depends on what size the capsules are. 00 size is about half a gram each. 000 size is about a gram each.

        1. Shaun

          Omg! I took 14 (00 capsules) this morning of Bali and it did nothing! I started with 4 capsules last August..I wonder if I’ve built a tolerance

      2. Jon

        Usually each capsule is a half gram. 2 equals a gram.

      3. Plum

        Usually 1/2g per capsule

      4. Ashley

        Two capsules is 1 gram. Each capsule is 500 mg and a gram is 1,000 mg.

      5. Daniel

        I use capsules, on my box it says 1 to 2 capsules per day. Hope this is helping.

      6. Cliff

        Quit before it’s too late.

        1. Sheseesthrees

          Quit what…naysayer

        2. Scarlett

          Why? You have to have a reason. I’d like to know why you say this. You can email me at gmail.
          Does anyone have real valid concerns? Or is this just a personal opinion?


      7. Robert

        I normally took 12 but I have a high tolerance and it depends on the strain

      8. Mark D Kingsbury

        Don’t do capsules. Use powder and use a small magnet to mix through the pull out the heavey metals this plants tends to absord. Use about three grams of bai and you’ll feel less in pain. Actually yellow Borneo might be better for pain. I have so t enough tests

        1. Ryan

          The grinded and finished product most likely has metals in it because particles of the grinder shaved/ broke off during the grinding process. I would recommend getting your kratom from a reliable source that has their product lab tested for any bacteria’s or harsh metals.

          1. Michelle Staley

            Thanks for the heads up! I’m still learning about Kratom and haven’t purchased any yet. I know NOTHING about which brands are reputable and which are not, nor do I know if I should even believe it when a website indicates that they do test.

            Any thoughts, brand suggestions or brand warnings, etc.?

            If it makes a diff, I’m specifically seeking Kratom strains that have the power to knock hideous neuropathic pain on its butt. (But since I don’t live in a fairytale, I’d be delighted to find a variety that at least helps a fair amount!)

            Thanks for any input you and/or others can provide! ~ Michelle

      9. Damian

        Well it depends on the size yo if thair “00” capsules (wich more likely than not they are) thair 730 milligrams and thairs 1000 milligrams in 1 gram so probly start with 2 or 3 but the best way for effects is (the honey,lemon & black pepper is to your preference tho so you gotta expirament with that) to heat up some water and put some honey in it to help with that horrid taste & put some lemon juice in it to help the alkaloids in the kratom leach into the water so your body obsorbs it faster and then put a few dashes of black pepper in it to BECUSE that also helps your gut absorb it faster aswell

        P.s. a good brand is “NJOY” highly recommend it

      10. Jumbotron

        Generally .5 grams in a cap.
        2 caps = AROUND 1 full gram…not exact though.

    2. Jon

      Vivitrol is an opioid antagonist- u probably already know it fills the receptors in ur brain and does not allow any real opiates to fill them. Kratom is not an opiate, it’s opiate-like. Now I’m not scientist but eventhough it’s not a true opiate- I believe it works on the same receptors, so if they’re filled w vivitrol, it might be useless to take it. I know when I was using, whether it was the street drugs or the suboxone, I got zero effect from kratom. My advice is: don’t do it. What I’ve seen to countless others, including myself is: I bought some kratom either trying to switch addictions or detox comfortably, I felt next to nothing from the kratom, and since I was seeking relief and/or intense opiate like high and didn’t receive it- I went back out and returned to the devils drug. I’m understanding it’s your goal to be free from all those chains, so don’t seek those artificial feel goods out. Focus on fixing the reason why u feel u need to disassociate. If it’s the fact you’ve isolated in ur using from all the love and caring people in ur life- focus on mending those relationships and forming new positive ones. If you have an underlying source of depression- only u know why u feel that way and only u know what u gotta do to fix it. I recommend for some time taking some prescribed antidepressants. I don’t like the idea of modern pharmaceuticals but there I was not very long ago drawing up concoctions of god only knows what!

      1. Krista

        I really enjoyed reading your comment. May I ask what kind of depression medicines worked best for you or someone else you know?

      2. Ray

        I agree with you 110% if you have a high tolerance like yourself and I, why bother I even got my medical marijuana card and there shit doesn’t do anything. Why bother, Kratom and Medical Marijuana don’t do anything. Stick to your. Medications and Real Weed.

      3. Ray

        I agree with you 110% if you have a high tolerance like yourself and I, why bother I even got my medical marijuana card and there shit doesn’t do anything. Why bother, Kratom and Medical Marijuana don’t do anything. Stick to your. Medications and Real Weed. Jon hopefully you get relief

        1. Sheseesthrees

          You’re obviously doing something wrong

      4. Mark D Kingsbury

        You sir have one muthafucking fiend on your back!

        1. Billy Austin

          It’s not the kratom itself u seek. It’s the alkaloids.. I was terribly addicted to what drug labs call , u haven’t been high yet. The kratom will buzz u out. After about 9 months of clean.

      5. Dylan Anzaldua

        Kratom got me off hard opiates. You just have to take enough.

      6. Ryan

        Kratom does attach to m-opioid receptors so, taking it while on Suboxone or any opioid blocker will be pointless. I wasn’t a believer on kratom until I was on a month long vacation in Hawaii. I was on Suboxone for six months before my vacation and didn’t go see my doctor or refill my script for the month that I was going to be in Hawaii because I was over all the bullshit and amount of money I was spending for the treatment. I was fine for the first couple of days in Hawaii but by the third day the withdrawal started hitting me big time. I was sweating and had the chills, sneezing, yawning uncontrollably. The worst thing was the restless legs. I couldn’t fall asleep because it felt like my bones or the skin on my legs wanted to crawl off. It was the most uncomfortable feeling I’ve ever had.I talk to my brother and was trying to figure out something so I didn’t have to cancel my vacation and go back home feeling like shit. I went to a local head shop and got some Red Bail kratom. I took 3 g and laid back down at my rental condo. About a half an hour later my body was flushed with an overall sense of Well being. It’s like I close my eyes and felt 1000 times better. If You’re on Suboxone or Subutex and want to get off I recommend not taking it for two days where you just start to feel some withdrawal effects. When you start noticing the slightest withdrawal affect start taking some crate him but at low doses. People tend to think that they need to take a bunch and that the more they take the better the effects will be. This is not true as we all know the lower the dose is the more euphoric and energetic. Larger doses will be more sedating. Kratom does work….Believe in it and trust in it and don’t abuse it.

        1. Brooke

          I have been on Suboxone for years. I have read a lot of articles of people saying how it helped them come off. I too have the same thinking of what you said exactly. I am at the point now where my Insurance covers it, I’m not even wasting the insane amounts of money on it anymore, but I have been on it for pretty much the past 10 years and I am just so exhausted from having to depend on a medication everyday to keep me from not being sick and to be able to function. So this gives me a little bit of hope . Thank you. How many capsules do I have to take of it? I got 2 different kinds. Bali and Super Indo Kratom and the 00 capsules. Unfortunately I don’t know much about how many capsules to take and what works best. Any advice would help . Thank you !

          1. Joe

            Yes Brooke you can get off of suboxone after very long term use,i am living proof.I was prescribed 14 mg daily for 10 years after 3 years of hydrocodone use for neck problems.Kratom does indeed make it easier to get off subs but at some point you do have to stop taking that also and i can tell you that sub.withdrawal for me was much worse and way longer than opiate withdrawal.Once withdrawal is over you can go back to kratom.No matter how much kratom you take even for extended periods the withdrawal is very mild and lasts no longer than three days.I have been totally clean of opiates since 2012 and go on and off kratom as needed.Good luck!!!

      7. charlotte

        Jon, just wanted to express appreciation for your thoughtful reply/comment to the individual seeking advice regarding their addiction.

    3. Chris N

      Naltrexone blocks mu opioid receptors, so no version of kratom will give you effects, itll just induce withdrawal symptoms.

    4. Lisa Kniseley

      I take naltrexone the Pill. No side effects so far

    5. Kory Richards

      If you are taking that combination of medication then your u-opiod receptors are blocked – period. I don’t think Kratom is strong enough to break through… you may feel some stimulation but the opiod effect will not happen. Nothing will happen and certainly it will not bring on withdrawal… not sure why that was said???

      if you are using these meds for drug-assisted recovery purposes then perhaps you might want to reconsider any substance that hits those receptors in a euphoric way… Heal, give yourself some time, and then re-evaluate several months or years down the road…. good luck

    6. Gin

      I took Naltrexone for a year hoping it would help my back pain. I was told to get off kratom to even start that since they would be fighting one another. The Naltrexone did not help me at all, HOWEVER, the compounding pharmacist told me later that he found that they can be taken together.

  7. Terri

    Hi everyone. So here’s my story. I have been an opiod addict for over 25 years. Been through many detoxes, rehabs, institutions, psych units etc. Also multiple methadone programs. In 2006 I joined recovery and to this date have 13 yrs clean. However, a few years back a dentist literally broke my jaw, and knocked out 3 teeth and repositioned another which through surgery was also removed. Dental pain is probably the most severe that I’ve ever experienced. That pain lasted 3 entire months. I was given percocet which I used extremely carefully utilizing family and sponsor to dose to me as needed. I stopped using those and another few yrs pass, and then I had 3 back surgeries within a 2 yr period. I have multiple illnesses, hypothyroidism which leaves me drained everyday no matter how many times they say my dose and blood work are fine. I have chronic pain now due to my back surgeries and need a full left hip replacement. I’ve been fighting to have this hip fixed for many yrs but concerns of my weight held off the surgery. Meanwhile I’m now using a Walker, or cane daily due to the pain. Forgot to mention during the back surgeries I was put on oxycontin and morphine. My insurance stopped paying for the oxycontin and they switched me to morphine sulfate extended release 90mg a day and oxycodone 10mg x 6 times a day. I’ve now been on these exact doses for multiple years. Of course my tolerance is insanely high and my medications are no longer working. I’ve been diligent in taking only as prescribed because of my past and am petrified of returning to my former life. I’ve considered going back on methadone just to help with this pain but am trying with all I have to not go back there. I’m finding because my tolerance is so high that I feel like I’m in withdrawal daily even taking my prescribed dose. I don’t overtake because I don’t want to run out too soon and then left with the only decision we know I’ll have and I refuse to live like that again. Every month it gets pain is barely touched by these meds anymore and the extreme fatique of the somewhat withdrawal, the eyes running, yawning, irritability…all the same as they were years ago. My drs refuse to increase my dosage and to be honest that’s probably best because I’ll just be in the same situation down the road with an ever higher tolerance. So I’ve heard of kratom over the years. Of course I was taught to never substitute one for the other so I’ve avoided it. CBD does absolutely nothing for me. So that’s not an option for me. I’ve started doing a ton of research on kratom and this thread has been most helpful for me. The stories are real…many so similiar to my own. I finally decided that before I go back down that road of hell and seeking to purchase additional medications off the street that I would give this a try. I placed an order this morning after reading every single comment here ( over 1200) . I’m desperate for relief. I want to be relieved of pain but also have the energy that opioids gave me so I can be productive and not feel so sluggish through the day. I ordered 2 items to try out. 1 red maeng capsules and 1 red kali, also capsules. I didn’t want to chance buying the powder at first and completely hating it and wasting my money.. if I find these give me the desired effects I’m looking for, I will most likely purchase the powder, capsules and machine to fill them. But I want to make sure of which product will work for me first. Sleep isn’t an option, I do have sleep medication prescribed due to apnea, pain, and restless leg syndrome…I was only able to sleep 2 hours at a time due to the hip pain so they prescribed klonopin for that. So I’m not looking for any kratom to assist with sleep issues. All I want is for extreme pain and increased energy. I hope I made the right choice of products. I thank you all for sharing your experiences, they really helped persuade me that this may be just what I’m looking for. Ideally, I would love to tell this drs to stick these prescription you know where lol. So now im asking for feedback….do you think I made the right decision. you think I ordered the best products for my issues? And lastly I read multiple comments that people are taking 8-10 capsules at a time a few times a day…equaling about 30 pills a day….is that correct? And how many should I start off with in the beginning? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Finally, I just recently lost 60 lbs so I will probably be able to get my hip replaced, I have my first appointment again for that issue in about another month. Sincerely from a recovering addict desperately hoping to never go back down that road again.

    1. Amanda

      After reading your story is absolutely love to hear how kratom works out for you. I am a recovery addict as well and I’m currently on Suboxone which is a monkey on my back I hate it and I’m looking for a way to get off of it because every time I’ve tried the withdrawal is just so intense and lasts for over a month I end up going back to it and I’m now looking at Kratom for an alternative. I’ve read so many stories as well and they seem so encouraging and you have so much more pain and what not then what I would be dealing with with withdrawal and I feel like if it works for you it’s got to be able to work for me and I’m curious how it is going to work out for you. If you don’t mind e-mailing me in a few months and telling me how your situation works out for you I would love to know and correspond with you. As well as I am hesitant on spending you know 40 bucks or more on something that may be like every other herbal supplement I’ve tried like CBD that did absolutely zero for me. Good luck to you! My name is Amanda by the way in my email Is [email protected]

      1. Krista

        Hey Amanda! I’m in the SAME boat as your are. Will you please get in touch with me to let me know how your situation turned out?? Fb: Krista Michelle Anderson South Carolina

    2. C Jennifer Golden

      Hello to all. I never heard of kratom, and when I found it, and read about it I was cautiously excited but need some serious guidance. I have a tri diagnosis of Post-Polio Syndrome/. Post Gullium Barre Syndrome and advanced Sogrens. I am now on liberal doses of oxycodone and Ritalin. I feel my fatigue is in some ways worse than my pain. I would love to wean off as many of those drugs as possible. I was heading towards the medical marijuana route when I came across Kratom. I would like help knowing which, or both of these plans derived offers to help so many of my problems would be best. Which strains are best for my pain, fatigue, anxiety, depression caused by so many years of no hope. I know I’m asking a lot. I have a lot to deal with. 17 years ago a doctor asked me what my goal was since I had 3 diagnosis with no known cures. My answer was “ to be the best mother and grandmother possible “. That is still my goal. I would so appreciate your help in finally reaching my goal.
      Thank you, C J

      1. C. Jennifer. Golden

        I am adding to my request for help. I didn’t mention that I can’t swallow any pills. Whatever I take has to be in drinkable, or be able to take with yougurt it a similar texture. I want to order tonight but still am unsure of what or how to take the Kratom that will help most of my issues. Serious muscular, joint, spasms that lock up various parts of my body so that strong physical strength must me used to make my spasms release, then the after pain. Extream muscle fatigue when I use any group of muscles too long, I stopped being able to walk years ago. I need Kratom to replace the need for the 5-6 Ritalin or aderall I take now just to give me energy to function, a different strain to kill enough pain, and help me to sleep at night.
        A help for social, and general anxiety I have developed, and the depression that accompanys it all. I spend way too much time in bed. I need to start living again. Please all of you good people with so many problems that Kratom has helped. Won’t you please give me ideas of what to order, how much, and any advice for a woman not willing to give up
        Thank you. CJ

        1. Cynthia

          I am going through the simaliar problems but I am not on any medication they won’t give me anything till they find out what is causing my musles spasm, and tingles in hands and feet my back locks up my right leg gives on me bad and I am loosing feeling in my right foot,tires all the time missing work alot and I cry cause the pain so bad. I just heard about Kratom this week I got the power I’m trying it to see if I can get any relief. I pray it does my email is cyndiraker if anyone wants to know anything

        2. Lori Anne

          Can anyone tell me how 12 capsules every six to eight of Green Malay capsules effect a drug screen? It is working great for energy and my pain is non existent with this but I still take 10 mg six times daily of Percocet if really needed working hard to come off but not quite there I have dwindle down to 45 a month with the help of Keaton truly been on pain meds since I was 7 got hit by a car at broke back yards yada yada my story is nothing compared to some of yours but I am scared if I cut my pain meds completely and I am not ready and kratom shows up they will take what this miracle has done for me and let me get the rest of the way there!I went to rehab 1 time 11 years ago never really gave my meds up but I am older and it’s taking my body down now I am very happy with the effects I getting just a little shy to say by by as we all know that is the addict in me but I just want to know will it show up and how long due I need to stop in case thank you in advance for any help I can never thank all of you enough for comments I been reading help me get me where I am to right dose for me!!

        3. Lea Weinstein

          I just took one heaping teaspoon of Trainwreck powder and I seem to be feeling very good. You can mix the powder with water, but it tastes horrible. You can add it to something Sweet like yogurt as well.

    3. Anthony

      Hi, little late but did anyone actually have a conversation with you about use or dosage? Iv been using kratom for a few years and have alot of issue also. Iv also gone threw good and bad vendor or trying to get the most or best for my money. Lol iv been the test dummie so i just wanted to touch base with you cuz of all your concerns and questions. Hope all is well and if you still need some advice from someone who doesnt judge. Plus who has gone threw the kratom strain list an dosage trials lol. Have a blessed day.

    4. Ashley

      How are you doing!? Did you find that kratom helped!?

    5. SK

      I can tell you from being a patient of severe adhesive arachnoiditis ,cancer, auto immune disease and on them too heavy patches and pains killers for years … that one day I finally came to the conclusion that I’m dying more from the opioids then the diseases
      I am an herbologist and i went to Kratom . Red Bali, ultimate green premium. But I take 1 hr before magnesium and turmeric which are potentators for Kratom. I have been off my pain meds for months now and I have my mind back. Granted I take other stuff like tizanidine and nerve blockers but I can live my life better now and I have hope again. Please give the red Bali and the green strain a try. To see if it helps you.

      1. Snip

        Hi SK,
        Can you tell me what I would need to completely get off my medications? I take 3mg of long acting hydromorph in the morning and then at bedtime. Then usually a 2mg short acting pill sometime during the day. I want off them completely but I am new to all this. I have no clue what strains, how much, or how often. I’m in Canada.

      2. BluerKayKlaus

        Anyone having a hard time with the powder taste:
        Get a milkshake mixer from Amazon or elsewhere (hand-held electric).
        Put your powder in your mixing cup, then pile on chocolate syrup, karo syrup, or pancake syrup.
        Add 250-500mL of coffee, tea, or water.
        Add a magnet to catch any metal fines that may be present.
        Mix vigorously.
        Top off with your favorite coffee creamer.

        Rinse and clean your mixer regularly. I usually put the final mix in a 20oz spill-proof Contigo brand cup you can order from just about anywhere.

        For those having a tough time swallowing pills, there are some weird tricks out there to suppress your gag reflex that are easy.

        I definitely recommend powder over pills because of cost.

    6. Pamela L Victory

      I have orthopedic and neurological issues and was taking a small dose of hydrocodone/Tylenol under doctor’s care for 6 years. When this opiate crisis evolved, doctors in this state discharged even legitimate patients like me from care. I successfully weaned myself off of my medication but of course returned to trying to deal with the pain.
      I researched kratom but only recently bought some to try. After some experimentation, I found a dosage that worked for me. I have made it a practice to not use it daily to avoid tolerance issues. Besides that, it’s pretty expensive.
      I believe that people with chronic, severe pain should be treated appropriately to maintain quality of life.

    7. Justin C

      If you are currently on any prescription opiods or you are still using Heroin or street fentanyl then trying to switch directly over to kratom will be useless. All other opiod drugs are complete agonists, kratom is a partial agonist, what that means is your body is adapted to a drug that is aggressively taking over your receptors so your brain significantly stops producing natural opiod neurotransmitters AND it basically shuts down those neurons firing by raising the action potential required to make that neuron fire, so drugs that don’t fully occupy the receptor (like kratom) won’t have any effect. I was on methadone for 2 years at 120mg and kratom did absolutely nothing. Last year I was hit by a car walking on the side walk(hit and run) and now I have severe chronic back pain. I was bed ridden because of the pain, I couldn’t do anything and nothing I tried even put a dent in the pain. It had been a year and a half since I quit methadone cold turkey(withdrawal for 3 months straight, didn’t feel right for 10 months) and I decided to try Kratom again, and it gave me my life back. It was like a miracle, I not only could get out of bed but it reduced my pain from a 8 to a 2!!! It actually worked better than Percocet and other prescription meds I was given by friends who couldn’t bear to see me in so much pain. Now I am working again and my life is on the up and up. Ive been taking the kratom daily 2-3 times a day for year. My pain has been getting worse and evolving into nerve problems(sciatica numbness and tingling sensations in my hands and feet, shooting pains instead of just aching pains) and the dose I take is the maximum effective so if take take more it doesn’t reduce the pain any more but i experience more side effects, so I am pretty sure I need to get surgery desperately before there is permanently nerve damage. My pain is so intense that if I don’t take my Kratom it’s not the withdrawal that concerns me, it’s my pain which is so much worse than withdrawal… I would have literally killed myself due to pain if not for kratom, so if you are on prescription opiods and they don’t help with your pain anymore I would strongly recommend quiting for at least a couple months and giving kratom a try it’s definitely worth enduring the hell of withdrawal and toughing out your pain for a while, it worked 100 times better for pain then anything I’ve tried before and the “high” is very gentle and less addictive compared to the hard stuff. I started at 15 capsules per dose of red vein which is a lot for a beginner, I would recommend 10 or 12 to start with and increase or reduce based on your needs, if you have pain definitely choose a red strain and do your research on the brands you have available as some brands of the same strain can actually be as much as half or a third as strong, requiring you to take way more capsules. Also don’t get discouraged if after 30 mins you still don’t feel anything, it takes a little over an hour to kick in if you take the capsules.

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