Maeng Da Kratom

As a high potency strain, Maeng Da delivers a punch. 

It brings many of the pain relieving qualities expected of Kratom, but with a much bigger stimulating boost. However, unlike other stimulants, the energy boost doesn’t come with any jittery, unfocused side effects.



The details

Maeng Da was specifically created as a high potency red kratom strain in the humidity and heat of Indonesia. Similar to Bali Kratom, Maeng Da blends pain relief and energy into one. However, in order to beat the heat in Indonesia, this strain was made to provide a bigger kick in energy than Bali.

the difference

Because of it’s specifically bred for alkaloid properties, Maeng Da takes the normal pain relieving properties of a red strain and adds a nice energetic kick that some reds lack.

the science

Maeng Da Kratom was created using a technique called grafting, where tissues of different plants are joined together to breed different qualities of each plant into a new strain. In an effort to create a strain which maintains pain relief while mitigating sedative effects so it could be used during work in Indonesia, Maeng Da was born.

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  1. Brad Simpson

    Need something to help me thru between scripts. My old pain management doc retired and the new one wants to do spinal injections at $10,000 each. I’ve tried these and they didn’t work. The guy is all about money. I have to see him every month when my last doc I saw every 3 months. I’m been on pain meds for 20 years and have only walked up to 10mg Vics 6 a day. He’s cut me back to 4 a day. That’s great if I didn’t work 12 hour shifts.

    I have to find something that helps with pain and makes opiate withdraw tolerable. The way it is now by day 2 without opiates I’m down hard, diareah, shakes, cold sweats, all around just like shit. I can’t function for 2-3 days while I’m like this. Hypersensitivity to pain especially my legs, OMG my legs are on fire at night. They won’t settle down I won’t sleep at all.

    My last doc understood he had back surgery and my MRI on my spine made him ask how I was able to function on just Vicodin. He was surprised I hadn’t been asking for something more potent. I don’t want anything more potent. This new doc wants to put me on Oxycotin because the DEA is pushing to reduce the number of pills they prescribe. Been on them I turn into a soulless, heartless asshole. Constantly pissed off my reactions are disproportionate to whatever happens, I explode in rage.

    Need recommendation on what would fit my situation best. Would prefer no sedation side effects during the day but definitely for the night, if one type can do both if not main goal is pain relief and opiate withdraw mitigation. Thanks ahead of time.

    1. Mandi Robinson

      I am so sorry the doctors can’t seem to find out what works best for you. I hope all is better now.

    2. Randy

      Brad, i have been taking Maeng Da mostly for over a year and 6 months. I am 67 with spinal stenious, severe degenerative disease, arthritis, carpal tunnel syndrome, neuropathy jn all extremities. I had a serious opiate problem as well. I take two heaping teaspoons every 2 to 3 hours. I get pain relieaf, alertness, energy and can work long shifts. I never get high. I do feel good.

      1. Michelle Solinger

        This exactly like me. I take 3 tsp of red Bali, I was amazed at how well it worked. No more narcotics.

      2. Lynda Fowlerfisher

        Thanks Randy- I think your advice is a good fit for me. It’s almost another year passed, curious if your advice and dosage still stands…

  2. Melody

    I been taking and trying different strains of kratom….my daughter told me to start with the Red maeng da and i really loved it and it gave me so much energy and helped with my pain, then I also tried, the green maeng da I don’t like it as much it doesn’t seem to be as strong of a strain…today I am trying gold and I have white maeng da on order I also have tried bali which I found it to give me headaches which I suffer enough from I even lowered doses and tried different things….the green maeng da is good for anxiety and depression but once it wears off it hit me hard with a bad case of anxiety….I didn’t like that….I will probably go back to the red maeng da but I want to try the white because it is good for RA and also pain…and I have fibromyalgia and RA and alot of back pain…it has helped me alot and my g/f is going thru stage 4 lung cancer so with me having to be her caregiver and take her to and from appt. I have to be active and i don’t always feel it this helps me and i rather take this then opiods…I also have gone thru a few days w/o it and the withdrawls are not that bad not like I go thru with opiods….I am glad that my daughter put me onto kratom.

    1. MalinoisLady

      Hello Melody,
      Maybe a dumb question?
      But when you say RA do you mean rheumatoid arthritis?

  3. Linda Simpson

    I bought Maemg Da powder, 7oz. I’m 69 and have DDD/ DID. Hip knee replaced back surgeries I’m in constant pain. How much do I need to take? Using 2 tablespoons in small smoothie. Seems to me too much

    1. Twoyear Kratomuser

      Every strain is very different, as is the same strains from different batches. It’s best to start out small with each new strain to see how your body reacts. Some strains I can take 10 grams, others I can only take 3-4

    2. Kate

      I have Lyme and usually only do 1 tsp green Maeng Da with OJ. After 4-5 hrs I sometimes do another tsp. Everyone is different, every strain is different. It’s all about what works for you.

    3. Brian Sims

      I’m 50 and was taking suboxone for 7 years. Tried to quit but withdrawals were BRUTAL. Started taking Green Maeng Da, because of it’s high alkoloid content. Stopped taking the suboxone, and started taking 10g (1 heaping tbsp) every 6 hours at first. Never went thru withdrawals while on the Kratom. Take red Maeng Da at night to sleep. Hope this helps.

      1. Jon D

        Hey there. Saw your post on trying to get off suboxone with Kratom. Has it helped and still working? I’m in your same boat any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

      2. Eric

        Hello. I’m coming off heroin and p ercs. A friend suggested info kratom although I just started 2 heaping teaspoons. Every 6 hrs so far so good. Should I adjust the dosage?

      3. Sheila

        Hey I appreciated your post and I know it’s been awhile since you posted it however how are you now? Still off the suboxone? I am wondering what the dosage would be in the jumbo capsules for someone wanting to do as you did. How many would a person start with?
        Thank you.

        1. Marlene Stewart

          I take 4 capsules every 6 hours to not have withdrawal from morphine and oxytocin.

      4. Rick

        What strain is good for muscle spasms, bel palsy and low energy

      5. Rick

        What strain is good for muscle spasms, bel palsy and low energy

    4. Melli Peep

      Hi Linda, I have DDD & DDD boobs = CONSTANT BACK PAIN. I put 5-9 TEASPOONS in a gallon of orange juice and keep it at the ready. Be sure to shake very well. However, if you are diabetic you might try making tea. I just read up on it and am going to try it. I will make a gallon of tea, and do it just like I do the oj. As we know, oj is full of sugar. If you’re trying to lose weight, drinking oj is like drinking a coke = empty calories – no good.

      BTW, FOLKS: if you make it a gallon at a time, the longer it sits the better. The “green” taste totally goes away. It doesn’t taste bad at all. And you can make a higher concentration and pour it into your glass with a little more oj.

      I drink about 4 oz at a time about 4 times a day until about 4p. I’m able to function all day.
      I then take a couple of hits of CBD oil from an e-pen. I cut off kratom @ 4: because I don’t want to be awake all night.
      Actually function at a semi normal rate. I still have to keep in mind that I have to be careful not to overdo it. I’m 58. At our age, we don’t need to be taking grams at a time. This, I think, is the only perk of the metabolism slowing down.
      I noticed that if I take more, I get the narcotic drowsiness, blech. So I keep it about 4 oz at a time. Keep your height and weight in mind as well. I’m 5’1 and 169 lb.s Now you have a better idea of why the way I do it is a good dose for me.

  4. Nikki

    I want to try some but EVERY website I go to wants me to order $50 or more in order to use COD or debit card payment. This has been the most frustrating time trying to order it!!! 😢😢 I have taken myself off pain pills after being on them for 14 years. Does ANYONE know where I can buy some online without the $50 min?? Thank you xo

    1. Daniel Mowery

      Where do you live.. just look up kava bars or smoke shops near you and call them.. ask if they sell kratom thos way you dont get scammed online and you dont have to spend 50

      1. Carol Williams

        Any smoke shop,usually. I bought 80 caps for $19.00.

        1. Barb

          Carol Williams where was this that u bought it from? I’ve never of 80 caps for $19…….that’s awesome

        2. Thomas Divis

          South Sioux City Nebraska sells Bali in gas stations for $20 and they work well

        3. William

          I live in CT, just paid $39.99 for Mang da Red, 100 capsules, 50 grams. Bought them at a vape shop.
          Was told they might help me with relief from drug cravings. Seems to be helping, although it could all just be in my head lol.

    2. Maryann

      Check your smoke shops

    3. joseph alford

      are you near 60430 zip code

    4. Curt Manners

      I’d hate to have to feed that monkey you got, but if you’re serious, study the strain types on this site.
      To kick Hydro after a 3 year run, I went to the head shop and got those big tabs that are 900 mgs. 1000 mgs. is a gram, for reference.
      I took one at a time so I could test the FX a little at a time, finally settling on two to get the edge off each morning. One later in the day.
      Don’t guzzle a bunch of coffee and eat this on an empty stomach, have a cookie or something before and then be sure you’re hydrated with water.
      I’m a real hard sell on holistic crap and they don’t make the drug that can kill me, but kratom did actually keep my mind off that Vicodin for long enough to stop that $6 a pop nonsense for Vickies.
      The Red Bali is said to be most akin to the feeling you and I are needing, but I’ve got all different kinds, for sedation/stimulation.
      I ain’t gonna lie to you, I still like that feeling of well being, and I use high grade bud along with Kratom to stay off of anything else and I mean anything. No booze, cigs, or Peruvian marching powder.
      Get you one of those el cheapo capsule makers off Amazon, some 00 empty capsules, a 50 gram bag of Red Bali and set up shop.
      Those caps hold right at .6 gram packed good and tight.
      Good luck Pal, you’re gonna need it.

    5. denise

      I ordered from Sacred Kratom and got a few ounces of several different strains for less then $15 each. I also found a local “head shop” that sold it by the ounce.

      1. Carter Hadley

        Sacred Kratom is my favorite so far. I’m new to it & have tried 3 vendors. SK Red Bali is great for pain & opioid withdrawal symptoms. I haven’t seen them mentioned often & it seems they should be. I also tried their white Maeng Da. I’ve yet to find the right strain for my fatigue but the MD is still helpful.

    6. Danyelle Zumwalt

      I got some from a tabaco shop in Jacksonville il for $20

    7. Karen Mokas

      I use 2 teaspoons and that works for me.A few times I have had to take more but I always start off with the 2 teaspoons not tablespoons I hope this helps

    8. Stephanie

      What city and state are you in cause I’m in Ocala Florida for now( horrible place) but I go to any gas station and get Kratom- it’s hit or miss on quality) but maybe somewhere close to u sells it?

  5. Cindy bothe

    I’m on day 1 of my journey the maeng DA kratom powder and its working wonderfully!
    I started will 3grams this morning. Did it like a shot! Tastes like dirt, but as others have said. If you really want it you’ll get over it.
    Waited 20 minutes and did another 2 grams.
    Have not even thought of wanting an opioid!!
    This is gonna be a true lifesaver for me.

    1. Twoyear Kratomuser

      Beware, the withdrawals are worse than opiates for alot of ppl. And mix it with orange juice, it really masks the taste. I use mango orange juice (Simply orange is the name brand)

      1. royMOnster

        You got that right

      2. Josh Lopez

        I’ve withdrawled from many different opiates plenty of times. I have also ran out of Kratom before and in my experince, Kratom withdrawal is comparable to caffeine withdrawal, only 10x worse. The physical aspect was nothing compared to methadone or heroin withdrawal. The worst part was my mental state. Kratom withdrawal left me feeling empty inside and highly depressed. But I have not touched any opiates in about a year and stay at a comfortable daily dosage of Kratom. I take about five grams of Maenga Da in the A.M. with my strong coffee, and about five grams of Bali in the P.M.

      3. Samuel Beaty

        Tell me about the effects of coming off Kraton after long term usage please. Is it really bad like opiates?? I find that hard to believe with it being so organic and natural. Please help.

      4. Grant

        That’s not true the withdrawal of kratom is about 2/10ths that of opiates I’ve been taking it for a year now,trust me I know

  6. Justin

    The “pimp grade” kratom works well, other than Green Maylay its my most favorite. 4 grams gives me the energy I need plus reliefs my fibromyalgia😁

  7. JENNY Wilson

    I started Krantom white Thai. Green malya. And White horn. 2 tea spoons on empty stomach. All the strains a different one each day. And I have vomiting twice now. Why? I take for the energy and mood lifting effect. And pain relief. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and I’m bi.polar

    1. JENNY Wilson

      I trust my vendor. What am I going wrong

    2. Denny G

      You may be taking to much, you need to invest in a accurate scale. See Kratom has different grinds, and heavyness from moisture content. So let’s say you have a tablespoon of green MD that on a scale is 3 grams…then some white Indo at a exact tablespoon could weigh 5 grams. Even though it looks like the same amount.

    3. Barry M

      Because you are likely taking too much and you’re doing so on an empty stomach. You should eat first and try halving that dose. You can always take more, never less.

      1. Twoyear Kratomuser

        You’re actually supposed to take it on am empty stomach for best results (so that you’re not wasting it) but also I agree they could be taking too much

      2. Elizabeth Bollibon

        Don’t take on an empty stomach!


      Always Eat something ,never take on empty stomach !!! I even put my Kratum Red from Borneo in my peanut butter & jelly , so not to upset my tummy !!! This advise I got from other people who use same Kratum for Pain !!! I found out the Red Kratum works best for 9 of my 10 complex pain conditions !!! GOOD LUCK GOD BLESS

  8. Clifford Maddox

    I take condoms teaspoons 3 times a week I’d like to take more I enjoy it it helps but I’m worried about overdosing

    1. Robert Beiter

      You cannot overdose on Kratom.

  9. KR

    This does not act like opioid to me. I do not get high. I don’t have any cravings nor withdrawal symptoms at all. Life saving for me.

    1. Mr Shakur

      Hell yah! I wish I woulda discovered this YEARS ago! I stopped opiates once again and said to myself “I’m gonna try it” and boy am I glad I did! Didn’t have ANY w/d symptoms. No RLS, cramps, diarrhea, sweats, NOTHIN! Get this if you run out of your opes

      1. denise

        So happy to hear from all of you about the opioid w/d. My son has been on soboxan for 5 years and the detox has been worse than the opioids. He is on day 2 of the Kratom, we are still working on dosage but he feels better today! This is such a positive after the last 2 weeks of hell! God has gifted us with the plants to heal!! Bless all on this healing journey, may they find the plant medicine they require to heal them.

      2. Chuff

        What strain, and what dose? Picked up some green MD today cuz I needed SOMETHING, ANYTHING to get me thru the withdrawls of 45 mg morphine a day & 6, 10/325 hydro’ s a day. I start3d with 1 Tblsp. Any idea how much & how often I should take this stuff? How long to take affect once I’ve drank it.

  10. Nina

    I need to correct something I wrote, I said normal horseplay instead I meant housework lol 😂 And when I said maeng da Kratom underneath leave I meant the word “krave” sorry

    1. Nina

      I know this must b annoying now, but when you say capsules take longer, actually about how long is longer? K, I’m done bothering….sorry again!

    2. denise

      damn auto correct :0

  11. Nina

    Just bought the krave maeng da capsules, and says 500mg Beach capsule. I am taking them mainly for energy and happy mood and some pain relief. It just says maeng da Kratom, no specific color, but the powder looks green, how do I know which strain it is and how many 500 mg capsules to take? To describe the bottle…..says all natural at top left then leave in larger black print w/word botanicals in small green print underneath leave and then maeng da **kratom in orange like color. So sorry to bother you but I just want to know which strain and how many capsules to take because I am deserperate for the energy because I can’t even seem to get my normal horseplay and dinner cooked for my family (3 kids included). So tired of crying on daily basis. I already take Ritalin for ADHD and synthroid, cuz doc said it would help my energy levels(nope). Psychiatrist continuously insists I smoke marijuana, but everyone I try it makes me lazy and hungry. Please help if u can, would be so grateful! Thank you for reading this lengthy comment

    1. Gj Isenhart

      You need to buy a scale first of all cause if you’re buying it from a headshop it isn’t weighed out correctly most of the time. If I’m ever waiting on an order and I have to buy my Kratom from a smoke shop I empty the capsules into a cup and weigh it out. Second you need to start with trial and error. I would first try 3 grams. If you are keeping them in the capsules the weight won’t be that much different cause I’m guessing if it says 500 mg it is a “0” sized cap. Which weigh a gram after 10 empty caps. Anyways just keep going up to desired effects. If you take it raw it will take 15 to 20 minutes if you take it in caps it will take anywhere from thirty minutes to an hour. More than likely you got green Maeng Da. If it isn’t a brownish reddish color then you’ll be getting a energizing effect. If it is you’ll get a relaxing sedated feeling.

      1. Twoyear Kratomuser

        Don’t buy from head shop! Way more expensive!!!! Order online. I buy a huge bag for $90… The small bag you get for 30 could go into this bag like 50 times. Buy bulk kratom USA. Look it up 😊

        1. Frank K

          Definitely $55 for 500 grams or 17 ounces. Shops were selling one ounce for $25.


      First off Shrinks are nuts good luck with that !!! Try edibles for your Weed needs just start small to see how they affect you. Why mess your lungs up ? I use Medical Weed edibles & Red Kratum caps that I get at my Local smoke shop !!!

    3. Vicki

      500mg is half a gram

  12. Denise

    I tried the 7 capsule dose according to directions and all day felt like I had a ton of led in my stomach and felt no effects all day. I decided to try the powder and took two teaspoons again according to directions with a little water and 10 minutes later threw up but STILL felt nothing all day. I really wanted it to work so if there’s any feedback that may help please let me know

    1. Gj Isenhart

      Where are you getting your Kratom? If it’s a smoke shop there is your problem. I had the same problem. I took it and nothing. Then I tried good Kratom and it just blew me away and I’ve been off opiates for good.

  13. Kelsey

    Just received my Kratom in the mail, tried Green Maeng Da mixed in with my tea, I felt kind of warm and my tongue went numb… then about 30 minutes I was in the bathroom throwing up. I’ve bought “0” gelatin capsules, but I haven’t learned the conversions yet, I’m studying the measurements and I am realizing I will probably have to take several capsules per day just to feel the affects of what I’m taking. I will try it in yogurt today like Jessica mentioned… hopefully it wont make me sick again. I used to take vitalize the herbal supplement shots and I loved them, but the shop I was buying them at quit selling them!

    1. Twoyear Kratomuser

      Mango flavored orange juice (Simply Orange- name brand)

      1. Newshell

        Does it work smoking it? Just wondering

  14. Chuck Perkins

    I am a 65 year old man who was recently diagnosed with throat cancer, and just finished chemo and radiation. I have chronic pain issues from multiple gun shot wounds severely damaging both legs and hips.
    I’ve been on hydrocodone for almost 10 years for the pain. All my medical is handled by the Veterans administration so I have to live by there rules. While being treated for the cancer the nausea was horrible, so, I tried pot. I also new by using pot that the VA would stop the hydrocodone.
    I no longer need the pot and I no longer take any narcotics.
    I’m taking maeng da for the pain, works well, and need no hydrocodone.

      1. Dawn

        I’m also on pain management, when I went to my doctor he told me if I tested for kratom again I would be kicked off pain management

  15. KC

    I agree.. The capsules sucked for me too. I guess cuz they take SO long to dissolve and they all dissolve at different times. I won’t get them again. The powder is much better for me anyway. I don’t bother putting it in anything except my mouth- hahahaha! but seriously, it’s better to keep your stomach as empty as possible so I just pour the powder in then take a huge slug of water…… swallow. It’s not that bad, really. It’s a weird consistency, kinda like dirt, but if you really want to take it- you will get over that real quick.

    1. Linda Simpson

      How much do you take? I’m new to this bit want off pain meds. I’ve need on Oxy for 19 yrs and it’s no longer working.

  16. Barbara

    ‘t have an an empty stomach but I took 3 capsules of ka tu M it did not work at all why don’t I feel it

    1. jessica

      Try mixing your kratom in pudding or yogurt. I took capsules and it kinda sucked. I mixed a teaspoon of white maeng da in chocolate pudding and it was very nice. Hot me ALOT QUICKER, and in still feeling it almost 3 hours later.. I have a very bad back and it helps so much.

      1. Twoyear Kratomuser

        Orange juice. Specifically mango flavored orange juice- simply orange name brand

    2. Brenden

      You may likely need to take more caps. for me kratom has no effect on me under 5 grams.
      so depending on the size of your caps your taking you may need to take any ware from 6-10 caps per dose.
      start low and work your way up.
      hope this helps.

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