Please be aware that the below charts reflect estimates and not exact measurements consistent across all kratom vendors. While it is recommended that you buy a scale to correctly measure your kratom, these charts offer support for those who are unable to do so.

When measuring an extract, we strongly recommend purchasing a small digital scale as they often have a significantly higher degree of variability.

Average Powdered Leaf

1 gram0.035 ounces
50 grams1.75 ounces
100 grams3.5 ounces

Crushed Leaf

1 Tablespoon2.7 grams
1 Teaspoon0.9 grams
000 Capsule0.70 – 1 gram

Bali Powder

1 Tablespoon6.2 grams
1 Teaspoon2.3 grams
000 Capsule0.75 – 1 gram

Maeng Da Powder

1 Tablespoon7 grams
1 Teaspoon2.6 grams

Green Malay Powder

1 Tablespoon6.9 grams
1 Teaspoon2.4 grams

Extract Capsule Conversion (00 Capsules)

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Extract00 Capsule DosageEquivalent Powdered Leaf
Gold Reserve Extract Capsule1 cap = approx .5 gram7-8 grams Powdered Leaf
Ultra Enhanced Indo Extract Capsule1 cap = approx .5 gram6-8 grams Powdered Leaf
ISOL-8 Extract Capsule1 cap = approx .5 gram6-7 grams Powdered Leaf
Ultra Enhanced Maeng Da Extract Capsule1 cap = approx .5 gram6-8 grams Powdered Leaf
Ultra Enhanced Red Kali Extract Capsule1 cap = approx .5 gram6-8 grams Powdered Leaf

This Post Has 1,539 Comments

  1. Matthew

    kratom is a miracle…between work and two small children to care for, my wife and i have no health insurance either..(,we who have been suboxone patients for years, admittedly the therapy has saved our lives in itself regarding the suboxone, we go about it honestly and are extremely serious about our recovery). however neither of us want to be on suboxone for the rest of our lives, this is merely a personal choice mind you, some folks may need to remain on subs for a loooong time, everyone is different, unfortunately our choice is financially motivated more than anything, and the kratom has worked wonders, absolute blazing wonders in helping us to titrate, lower, and even skip our doses of suboxone on occasion, and its been a beautiful thing. but like anything else in nature, this gift must be respected, and it will take you a long way in its benefits. 2-3 grams of a red vein strain in the morning allows me relief from my suboxone for up to a whole work day, (sometimes an extra gram or two during the day depending on my metabolism at any given time, for it is quite high) and roughly 4 grams in the evening….someday ill part ways with suboxone and live a truly free life thanks to this miraculous piece of nature, until then i will take it slow, slow as i can go infact and i recommend the same approach to anyone…no sense in taking things to fast and wreaking unnecessary havoc or stress upon the body.

    1. Eric

      I was on subs and methadone twice in my 35 years. I found suboxone is much easier to get off of because you can control your dose not the clinic. The first time on subs I was at 4, 8mg a day. Way too much. Tapered way to slow 2 years finally just stopped when I was down to just a chip. Felt like shit for 2 weeks still. 5 years later relapsed then went to a done clinic was at 100 mg of that for 2.5 years. Liquid handcuffs is the truth. Then went to subutex then suboxone. Just take as little as possible. Finally off again. Anyway it is possible even though it seems not. Kratom should help but be careful because it might bring your cravings for the strong stuff.

      1. Fred

        Actually, because Kratom acts primarily at the Delta receptor, its not nearly as addictive as pharma type opiates. At higher doses there is more action at the Mu receptor. Both receptors provide for pain relief, but the Mu receptor agonism is what perpetuates addiction via cravings. I never feel a strong craving for Opiates or more Kratom while taking it. Its much more matter-of-fact… i.e. ‘My pain is returning, I may need to take a bit more Kratom soon.’… Rather than, ‘holy shit!…my opiate pain med is wearing off and I can’t wait for my next dose/fix!’ A very, very different feel. This is why I feel Kratom for pain, as well as depression, is so much safer than the heavy duty Pharmaceutical pain medications. But make no mistake, there is a physical dependency issue with chronic use. Keep doses moderate, take days off ( if you can when your pain isn’t as bad), and rotate strains to keep tolerance at bay.

        Having said that, withdrawal is nothing like opiates. Its much more mild, but a taper is recommended. Expect a sweaty feeling, muscle aches ( especially in forearms and legs) , some agitation, and even occasional muscle spasms. Some people also report dyshoria and RLS. If you experience any of the more serious symptoms, you are weaning too fast. Just take a little bit of Kratom, a gram or 2, to irradicate the worst symptoms and then continue on with your taper. Bets wishes to all, and remember…with Kratom, less is more. I recommend everyone chart their use on a tablet and use a scale ( around $15) to measure dosages accurately.

        1. T

          I know this is an old post, but I just read it and you made me crack up laughing! Been depressed, so thanks for the laughs!!

        2. ronnie

          This post is really old, but as a nookie to kratom I am glad I found it. I like the advice you give on charting doses. I will be doing that. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this.

    2. GC

      I have been addicted to kratom for several years. Don’t kid yourselves into thinking this is a miracle of any kind… addiction is addiction. My life was much better off before ever using kratom. Wake up.

      1. Brandon

        I’m addicted to cheeseburgers and ibuprofen….come on man. You can be addicted to anything. If people say it’s a miracle for them and can take little amounts and not feel like shit then let them call it a miracle. Just because you abused it doesn’t mean they have. People like you are making this product illegal in some states.

        1. Tom Y.

          I agree with Brandon, I felt my life was never going to be normal again after using prescription opiates for many years (all legal from back surgeries) and I wanted my old self back that I had before becoming “Opiate Zombie”. Kratom got me off opiates completely and I look forward to going into work again I’m more productive, focused and find myself actually talking to my employees when I’m at work and getting back those relationships we had before I fell into the opiate hole. I take my burn first thing in the morning and I’m good until after lunch when I’ll do a smaller burn with some OJ to finish out the workday and then when I get home I still have enough euphoria to take care of whatever it is I need to do at home, mowing or playing with my dog (he likes the old me also). Bottom line is “Kratom” has given me my life back, personally and professionally so it is a miracle because I thought I’d never be normal again but life is great!

        2. Milonius

          Wait until Kratom stops working and your dosage starts to skyrocket. Before long you’ll realize that the “miracle plant” feels dirty, just like any other opiate after awhile. Eventually you’ll cross a threshold at which the side effects will manifest, and they’re not pleasant. Bad memory problems and “dizzy eyes” are the two most common. In order to get any relief you’ll have to increase your dose to a point at which the dizzy eyes are an almost constant battle. Walking around not being able to focus your eyes all day, feeling dizzy, and forgetting things people told you 20 seconds ago are not fun. Yes, this is a plant, but the effects of taking it over a long period of time have not been studied and are not understood. It feels good and clean at first, but when the dose is raised and the side effects are felt you’ll understand what I’m talking about.

        3. Alice

          Milionius, because you have an addictive personality does not mean every one does. I take 2 capsules a day and that is all. It has been that way for 3 years. My pain is helped. It may not feel like it did in the beginning, but it still relieves my arthritis pain.
          I do not take any more than that and I have never once experienced any of the issues with eyes and memory that you report.

        4. Laura Love

          OK Tom finally someone who experienced what I am. So I’m in a huge opiate hole. I don’t want to talk to anyone. I got some maeng da and red Bali but don’t know when to start it. Or how much. I’m after the get things done and outgoing effect. I’m not into feeling down or tired unless it’s bed time. So I’m on 20 mg oxycodone 3 x a day. And always take 600 mg of ibuprofen with it or 1000 mg of Tylenol. I change them up. My OXY won’t help pain anymore because I’m going on 12 years of use due to back surgery from car accident. So I just want my life back. Can I start this 3 hours after taking 10 mg of oxycodone? I have been breaking my OXY in half weaning slowly. How much should I try being a 5ft 9in 37 yr old 170lb female?

      2. S.H.

        I am extremely happy to hear your life is better without Kratom. If Kratom use was causing negative problems in your life then discontinuing was definitely the proper call for you. As long as a substance has the possibility of altering your mood in the slightest people will abuse and become “addicted”. People sniff/huff glue, gasoline and computer cleaner, people drink purell and other hand sanitizers, people are addicted to sex, porn texting and video games.

        Kratom is a miracle plant for some. It was for me. I was a long term Norco/Vicodin addict who used Kratom alone to taper down from 15 Norcos a day to none in 4 days. I had virtually no withdrawal effects.

        I had tried subutex, suboxone, been given benzos (far worse than opiates), tranquilizers and went to rehab. None of those things worked. Kratom worked. As a committed opiate addict; if Kratom is an “opiate” I certainly never got addicted to it. I used it for 14 days. The exact same dosage, of the exact same strain for 14 straight days and stopped. I did not have a single desire to continue to use Kratom afterwards.

        Kratom, just like everything, is not for everyone and there will certainly be those who will abuse it like everything else in life. However, I can only speak for myself. If used properly and with respect this plant has the possibility of freeing the every grower number of opiate addicts out there.

        1. leelee

          i have been struggling with opiates pretty much all my life. in the end i was shooting heroin. i’m on suboxone now and want more than anything to give that up. i just took my first dose of kratom and hope and pray this works. how much kratom did you take to get off opiates in 14 days? can you tell me your exact schedule for taking kratom?

        2. KatDan

          leelee, I know exactly how you feel. I have been using opiates and 140mg. of methadone a day since 1990 (getting old). I started lowering my dose by 5mgs. a week until I got down to about 50mg. then I went 3-5mgs. about every two weeks down to 20mgs. then I just let my body tell me when to go down. It has taken about a year, but am here to tell you that Kratom works! I am DRUG FREE as of 12/31/2017. The worst is in the morning when I get up. I just used about 4-7 grams 3-4 times a day of some great Red Borneo, or Red Bali, mixed with some White Maeng Da (for energy, since you won’t have ANY!)and FLUSHED the rest of my Dones down the toilet, so the Kratom helped me to kick while at 15mgs. of Done a day, not only that but I stopped taking my Clozapam 2mg. every night at the same time!You will just have to let your body feel it out for you. I hope this helps anyone else out there, I’m a hard core addict! have been since the 80’s, this is the first time I have went more than 12-18 hours without Opiates, and I feel GREAT! 11 DAYS AND COUNTING!

        3. paul stephens

          Katdan and leelee or anyone else
          Rather than providing TMI I have aquired a few bad habits. @ 62 addicted again to oxy (8 30mg/day) from same pain mgnt doc for year. currently many sinus issues, bronchitis and latent tooth infection taking toll on my health. been down methadone road all the way to couple china white episodes thailand/laos to alot of hilltribe treks to get opium. a dangerous game… Ran out of oxy last night, took 20 mg methadone to deal with beginning withdrawl today then found some green mayley and red bali stashed here so took 10 oz mayay. its 8 month old but been in sealed packs, hope still works… any support offer will be greatly appreciated. will provide email and # then. thanks

      3. Aprilpolston

        Your so right started taking kratom for chronic pain and lack of energy it worked great but what they don’t tell you is you can’t just quit you will feel like you are dying which is just as bad as any other withdrawal like you said don’t fool yourself I was better off without it

      4. John

        True , because I abused it . Super difficult to get off of

    3. Maryann Leale

      How do you know what strain you have? And how many 500 mg caps does one take? I’m getting off of Norco but scared of unknown side effects. I found a kratom brand called Klarity. Anyone?

      1. Kay H

        I use Norco for a couple weeks, then go off it using Kratom. I have no side effects from going iff the Norco when I take the Kratom. I go back and fourth to avoid dependency. I am having surgery soon and after hope to not need need either. But in the last year it has been a lifesaver to me. I take 3 capsules of green bornea and 3 wildcraft in the a.m. A total if abour3.5 grams. Occasionally the first few days I made need an dose after lunch.
        Good luck

      2. S.H.

        You should use a red vein strain from Bali, Borneo or Thailand. Use in powdered form and mix in with a drink of your choice. There are many websites on dosing and there effects. You have to remember for coming off opiates you may need more rather than less 6-7 grams doses for sedative effects. At lower dosages 1-2 grams Kratom can act as a stimulant and that can potentially increase the anxiety detoxing from Vicodin already causes. Everyone is different.

      3. Petro

        I have been battling opiates since i was 19 i died the other. Day from fetti. I didnt want to stop cause withdrawal. Found kratom and have had no withdraw. No bupes no meth no other opiate. I keep waiting for the demon to enter me but it hasnt im hoping this is a cure also im an alcoholic and havent felt the need for a drink

    4. Derek

      My sister takes Suboxone. I’m trying to convince her to try kratom! So you take red vein in the morning? I’ve heard reds are more sedating and slower, and better to take at night. If you say you take them before work though, I’d be interested! Because I need energy for work. I’m taking green Maeng Da… just ordered green malay however and thinking of trying white Maeng Da.

    5. Chris

      The reason you can skip a dose is because the sub has a half life of 37 hours. The sub is what is holding you. Don’t get it twisted. Try doing that 2-3 days in a row with that amount of kratom. If the subs weren’t in your system anymore you would need a 5 gram dose every 2-3 hours

  2. Carly Harp

    I have suffered from pain related to MS and Fibromyalgia for roughly 8 years. I discovered Kratom this past January and am absolutely amazed at how well it works. My go to strain for pain is Red Bentuangie. I take it three times per day mixed with other strains. In the morning, I mix with white Sumatra or white Maeng Da to give me a boost of energy and pain relief. In the afternoon, I mix it with Green Bali or Green Malay for a mild boost and pain relief. And at night I mix it with red Sumatra or red Bali to help me sleep. I usually take 2-4 grams per dose and each dose lasts me around 5 hours. I make capsules as my swallowing ability has been somewhat compromised because of the MS so I can’t handle the texture or taste. Capsules are easiest for me but others have found success with tea or mixing Kratom with yogurt or applesauce. It has truly been a miracle for me.

    1. Audrey Sansone

      How do you take it? Is it like 1 table spoon in your tea?

    2. Sarah

      Could I personally message you some how?

  3. Edward

    I need to know something about kratom dosage amounts in extract form. I am supposed to see a pain management specialist next month. I have seen such doctors before with little success . I heard red kratom helps pain. I tried marijuana once and it gave me a deathly ill elevated heart rate. I almost died. No shit. I am 5’10 and 155 pounds. It seems the only pain medication I can take are opiate related. They cause the least amount of bad reactions. Someone please provide me with a correct dosage amount for red kratom. Thanks.

    1. Robbin505

      I would recommend getting on methadone, which I am on, because of the minute side effects and easily controlled titration method. Now for me it’s a mix of multiple approaches on my road to titration. I use an antidepressant, anti-anxiety medication(diazepam 5mg 2x per day), etizolam 2-4mg per day.

      1. Justin

        Are you out of your mind!? NEVER recommend methadone to someone

        1. ffonzones

          Thank you. I would never tell anyone to walk into the hell I’m finally getting out of…I am off methadone almost 3 weeks… I still have not slept more than 2-3 hours even with kratom. But I also don’t know proper amounts beginning i probably took an amount that was stimulating me during sleep hours adding to the insomnia. Kratom didn’t really start changing effects until about a week after last dose of 5mg methadone. It 100% helped with the horrible shitty side effects but I’m also bought club 13 bottle from health store. Says it’s a mix of mirygna speciosa and leaf extracts. I took 6 capsules and a tablespoon of black seed oil which really changed the kratom game for me personally. I was taking black seed oil separately from kratom after finding its insane health benefits and when dosing both close together on accident I was really buzzing…enough to look up interactions of the 2 to find i found gold! I don’t know much about club 13 product other than its expensive!!!! So I need to find a reputable website.

        2. KatDan

          ffonzones, I also just got off the methadone, I slept ok if I used 7-9 grams about an hour before bed, also try using a night time sleep aid from the drugstore. I’m getting about 5-6 hours of good sleep before things wear off and up and out of bed I come! Keep on keepin’ on! NO ONE should ever have to go through the methadone HELL, Gimme a heroin kick any day! lol. Kratom works, just have to make sure you use enough. Us addicts usually over do everything, why not kratom??? I found a table with high, low tolerance and what you should probably use. It said 7-9 grams for High so F*** it, that’s where I started and it worked. Peace, and good luck, with your life’s freedom again!

        3. Rob

          How bad is methadone wd compared to buprenorphine? I have gone through bupe twice with the help of kratom and it honestly was a walk in the park as long as I took the same dosage every 4-6hrs on the dot. I came off 4mg each time too lol. Anyways I was just wondering if you knew. Thanks.

        4. graham Blundell

          Agreed 1000%

        5. Jaqie

          Agree with Justin! Please don’t ever recommend someone to get into a methadone clinic!

        6. Pamela

          I agree ☝️ I see people taking it on sidewalks of NYC they’re drooling on themselves and half asleep . Also, Rots teeth !

      2. Euro P. Ahne III

        Lol, wanna go ahead and take the safety off and cock the hand back before ya hand over that .22 pistol to any truely desperate opiate addict in truely horrific DT’s, there, buddy? Bc all that complete idiocity of your comment is pointing straight to that poor boy or girl who gets trapped in an endless cycle of greed, lust, possessed insanity to grapple in the stage 4 terminal cancer of the mind that is Active Addiction? Methadone only gives addicts a false sense of hope then promptly locks them into an even more fatal drug addiction which from there leads to subs and if you’re lucky enough to kick that one before it kills you, inadvertently or otherwise, you stay off subs long enough where you can shoot up whatever drug is pictured in any addicts mind, recovered recovering or active as their go to sweet spot of euphorian bliss. Someone throat punch him before or if nothing hasn’t happened yet the methadone hasn’t led to meth, crack, heroin, etc.

        1. Rob

          Are you saying bupe OR methadone will end up killing you in the long run? How so?

        2. ronnie

          Amen brother

    2. Ryan K

      I’d say 5-8 grams if you have a slight tolerance go with 3-4 if you new to kratom. It’s best to get a mix of red and green vein in my opinion.

    3. chellyc

      Just a comment on the marijuana remark, you may think you “almost died” or whatever, but the FACT is that marijuana in any dose has NEVER in the history of marijuana, killed ANYONE! Marijuana is the safest out of any of the substances being discussed, obviously inhaling any form of smoke, even if it’s just burnt paper, is bad for you, but it’s the smoke not the marijuana, you can eat it too. I just had to clarify that, I hate seeing people that just tried it and had a bad experience say that it almost KILLED them and shit like that, it just wasn’t meant for you, that’s OK, don’t smoke it again, but save the dramatics for real drugs like crack and shit

      1. Becka

        Ask yourself where it came from and if it was around or mixed with other substances. Happens every day.

        1. Heather

          I am coming off bup and I am NOT taking Keaton right to get me to sleep OR to help with withdrawals during the day. I took way too much and it made me so shaky and dizzy ONE time so got nervous. But I obviously take too little during the day. I take like 4 capsules of green strain.
          It doesn’t help.
          What strain, kind, dosage is recommended. I am SICK of being dependent on bup. Btw….I have been on 16 mg a day for 5 years. Yes….it is a LOT. Please help.

      2. Beverly OMalley

        Marijuana did not “almost kill” me BUT it did lower my IQ by about 50 points and remove any and all motivation until I was severely depressed (diagnosed by a psychiatrist). It did absolutely nothing for pain…NOTHING! Switch to another strain led to severe allergic reaction even though I was only sucking the oil off the end of a toothpick 3 times per day. I got more stoned from the massive doses of Benadryl I had to take than I ever did from Cannabis.
        Even though I am pro-legalization of Cannabis it is NOT for everyone and for me it was NOT the panacea advocates suggested it would be. As I traveled down the road of chronic pain options were running out and I was very, very disappointed with my cannabis experience.
        Kratom does everything for me that I expected from Marijuana without any adverse psychotropic effects at all AND it does not need to be smoked so your lungs are safe.

    4. Night Shade

      Don’t get on methadone friend, I’ve been chained to it for over 4 years now & am fighting like hell to get off. I’ve been super braving it cuz I want off so bad so I’ve gone down 1mg a day from 98mg to today will be 58mg non-stop, I got kratom cuz I want to just stop the methadone cold turkey all at once from 50mg w/help from kratom but I’m not sure I can. I’m 5’2 115lb female my highest dose of methadone was 120mg. The process of getting off methadone is long, drawn out, painful, & really ugly & this is coming from someone who has been lucky with my taper. Methadone got me off heroin, but chained me to itself for years, my mom killed herself at 50 years old with her addiction to methadone + other opioid pain meds, I even was forced to stay on the methadone when I got pregnant, by the clinic & doctors & my daughter Eternity was born on methadone too, healthy & full term by the grace of God, but my newborn daughter had to be tapered off f’in methadone a few weeks after birth. They kept her on it at a small dose for a while before tapering her. Seeing this was a soul-shattering experience. I doubt the kratom will help me much, I could be very wrong, however, from me 2 u, DON’T GET ON METHADONE. No offense 2 anyone out there on methadone, believe me, I’ve been there for years & I understand, I just wanted 2 share my personal experience is all, I would be a hypocrite 2 judge. I know the people @ my clinic here in San Diego have been there many years some lifers u could say & have no intention of ever getting off, they all think I’m crazy 4 pushing myself so hard so fast 2 do it. They are right, it is awful, but I’m determined 🙂 God Bless, hope u worked it out. Anyways, I’m taking red vein kratom about 5 grams at a time due to my already high tolerance from methadone, it’s not doing the trick but I’m not giving up on it yet I’ll try a lil more then decide if it’s worth it. I get fom mmmspeciousa, the red vein is the way to go.


        I had been in methadone for 6 years for back pain from a car accident. I decided about 2 months ago that I was done taking it, so I tapered on my own from 50mg at 5mg a week or so. I took the last 5mgs i had last thursday. I was hurting but okay on Friday, but Saturday I started having withdrawls. Sunday I went down to a cigar shop and bought some Kratom just to see if it would help. I will tell you one thing, it does work. I have had no real feelings of withdrawls at all, since starting Kratom. I can take 4-5g in the afternoon, and not need to redose until the next afternoon. When I did go through withdrawls, the best way to describe them is like my muscles would just shake. Imagine having Restless Leg Syndrome but over your whole body. The Kratom helps so much more than I ever would of thought. Since getting hurt 6 years ago, I would get no more than 1 to 2 hours of sleep a night, even taking the methadone. Since I started Kratom I have slept a full 8 hours, so now I am well rested but more tired during the day, because my I am not used to actually sleeping. My plan was to only use it long enough to keep the withdrawls at bay. But I may use it sporadically after then.

        1. John Davis

          I need help getting off suboxone im down to .8mg 1 time a day. I try taking Kratom the next day to curve my withdrawls when they start to kick in and it does nothing. Does anyone know how long until I will be able to feel Kratom ??

      2. Kevbear

        Please, Please, Please Don’t Get on Methadone, It almost killed me, I was on 200mg’s a day and jumped off because I lost my job and couldnt afford it. It almost killed me. My bones felt like glass and I had a fever of 104. I almost died, I had a sezuire and had to be taken to the ER

      3. Chillin Anderson

        ….. hi there I also was on methadone Billy two days before they had overdosed me on and I am outside kids.. When I said was hi there I also was on methadone Billy today’s before they had overdosed me on that shit and I am at I in my size kids without a mother.. When I got see mergency room the first thing the doctor said was my name and asked why was I trying to hurt myself and I remember thinking thank God my way from with all to the side say if she wasn’t trying to hurt a cell she was trying to help his help if then does a get enough opiates that what the sky for her but I hope is in and then she got a dictator one and now you’re blaming have for this I use f****** crazy but luckily he was a little more children that happen then how I’m explaining it but still the guy was really am asshole at the emergency room and then I had another doctor within 20 power with on the ICU came out instead to me what the hell did you do DSL and I yell to a nervous which I’m not long we like that to tell that and dark that to get the hell out of my room after its I asked to do it. If he had jerk to begin with and cheese with Brittany yes he is a jerk so good to show you these people that I still call perfection late range in even be in the world up having a license to practice rehabilitation for people now in my suboxin and I want the hell off alone sex costing me and I’m in away Beechmont and I’m on quote my don’t see any of the high this getting me so that they talk about and I’m having awful dad Pete paying I only some cough the say but only have a few left that need to come out very badly and I was hoping to do that soon but I don’t want to be in pain cuz I would be nervous when I had a c-section it and I was on Sunday a a text.. And I didn’t get no we leave from Lafayette 2 hours before it it would even some up kicked in nobody won me about that kind of pain I didn’t even think I can look do that and that was 5 and a half to use ago with my 6 baby any Hill I’m also going to a change of wanting peoples understand that they had now taking away children from Dr addiction dependency behavior parents and I hate that’s unfair and I’m trying to get the word out there that this is what it’s going on with me right now… And also a article on about Senator Nancy Schaefer … my intentions is not to scare people but to make people more aware of what’s happening out there.. And what they are doing to keep children from being with their real families in the ones that still want to care for Them..thatIstilllove them if you read it out of coal about sent it to Nancy Schaefer that to ask you about what they are doing to keep children from being with it parents who really still love them and care for them in a family that still want some and I have quite a bit of time quotes on people that I had some cases I don’t take other people’s stories unless they really have an impact of getting will betta.. I try to stay away from those ones without a positive outcome because to me the whole Rehabilitation is to help positive .. so don’t get offended if you don’t sad stories I had to me… I just want the Story 2 be well on the positive side of Rehabilitatio.. please look me up on Facebook at Julie Anderson and you’ll find me on the and I have quite a bit of stories I’m a lot about Rehabilitation on medication.. Help Quotes DHS Child Protective Services .. positive stories on people that I had uphill battle with problems but found a way to help themselves and their families..I don’t quite take other people stories unless they really haven’t impact of getting better I try to stay away from real – negative ones.. I want ones to fill out a positive outcome because to me a spin on the whole rehabilitation is to help positive lesson this so don’t get offended if you don’t see all sad stories with no happy and then I had too many of those already… I’m trying to concentrate on the good I’m getting older myself .. I need to come out with us positive spin even if its not a hundred percent… Thank you JGA

        1. Sarah

          What the F**** was this??? I hope you not high anymore!!! Stick to kratom

        2. ronnie

          Your quite the writer there Anderson. Well maybe when your not out of your but you probably got here just like alot of us. Looking for answers on kratom. So its a good thing. Not judging, I’m the last that can do that.

        3. Rebecca


      4. kylie

        i truly hope you and your baby girl are doing well.

        1. KMarie

          Hi! I’m tapering off Suboxone from 16mg a day to .50mg, I feel like hell. I have kratom, the capsules (red Bali) and I told 6 and I felt worse. Any suggestions? 5’1” 105lbs. Thank you!

      5. Marc

        Hi there I was on 120 methadone my self I wanna just share my experience. I went off 120 mg cold turkey after 4 years now I already researched kratom amd I got red Bali amd green maemg dai from a very good source. I waited till about the 2nd morning and started the green at around 5 grams. At night I took the red at 7 grams
        And also I found to be important is what I call comfort meds. A sleeping med/maybe a benzo/possibly a stimulant for energy amd clonodine I can say for sure that half hour after my dose I was relieved from methadone and withdrawal 100 percent. Note. It’s very important to get comfort meds Amy safe ones u can get or not. Clonidine especially eliminates a lot of the withdrawal and also loperamide. But I can say GOOD sourced kratom took away most of my withdrawal from 120 mg methadone

  4. Matt T

    Just had my first Kratom experience. I took about 2.5 teaspoons of Mojo Bali. Idk how it compares to others, but I’m waiting another shoulder surgery and referred to pain management, so I’m stuck in between, and ran out of my prescription Norco last night. I was starting to feel like total hell, and in a short time, I feel great. The withdrawals are gone, my pain is under control, and I feel great mood wise. Any suggestions on dosing are more than welcome. I don’t have a scale. I have some Maeng Da to take during the day for work. Could use the advice.

    1. Johanna G

      Maeng Da is my personal favorite. I stopped opiates almost 2 years ago & haven’t looked back. I generally take 1/2 tbsp every 4-6 hours to manage pain and balance every day stress. Somewhat euphoric, MD gives you lots of energy and great pain relief. Note: white & green strains are more stimulating/energetic vs red/brown can be more relaxing. The more you take, the more sedative it can be. Good luck! 🙂

    2. Dina

      I just bought manga da capsules to help me get off of suboxone . Do you know how many I need to take to feel normal? Not high or anything , just to be able to do stuff around the house , not hate life , and feel like shit lol..???

  5. Fat Chants

    hey just because I never see this said anywhere and I’ve found it super easy and swift, I mix a dose, usually 4-6g of powdered kratom in grapefruit juice and shake it and down it. no problem. it’s not nearly as offensive tasting as tea or any other way I’ve tried. and grapefruit juice can prolong its effects.

  6. lamechellephotog

    I have been using Kratom for about three years off and on for pain relief from tooth issues like abscesses. Having no insurance and stuck with dental issues. Also using it for relief from rheumatoid arthritis joint and muscle relief again having no prescriptions whatsoever to help, I thank God I researched and discovered Kratom.

    I started out using Bali, then used the Maeng da capsules awhile. I’m just starting to try the red vein borneo powder today and whoa! I can immediately tell the difference in this strain. For me it’s more sedative quicker and better at pain management which I like I don’t need much. I put a fourth of a tsp in about a cup of applesauce with cinnamon and sugar to taste. It worked fabulously in masking the bitter and gritty taste. I saw the recommendation on another forum and I am definitely gonna stick with it. The knocking it back with juice thing, ughhh it just wasn’t for me. There are a lot of methods out there from brewing tea to doing it in juice but this to me is a great one. Fast and easy. I have a bit of nausea rare times when I do it on empty stomach as recommend but otherwise I love this wonderful herb! Its truly been a godsend! 💜💜💜

    1. K

      Applesauce sounds like a perfect way to get the powder down! I just tried orange juice and it was awful.

    2. Bruve

      Buy some gelatin capsules from wall mart or vitamin store. 00 solaray caps hold almost a gram packed properly.

    3. Barbara Frybarger

      Why don’t you have insurance? The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). was passed to help people like you. Because I have an income, my cost for insurance went up, and I would like to know it is helping others.

  7. Kayt

    I don’t currently own a scale, but will get one soon. Anybody know the converted weight TO grams of 1 tablespoon of Red Vein Sumatran? As well as 1 teaspoon of Sumatran into grams? Thanks! Keep Kratom legal!!!

  8. Jennifer

    I am looking for another strain to add. I presently take red Bali and SUPER GREEN MALAYSIAN with good effects. I have also tried Maeng Da and a few White stains with no effects. Any suggestions on a strain that will give me lots energy with clarity and focus?

    1. tanya

      Jennifer, I find that the White Borneo gives me quite a bit of noticeable energy. I have fibro with chronic fatigue syndrome and after I take about 1.5 to 2 TEASPOONS within about 20 minutes I’m able to do much more than previously and feel like doing it. I’ve had amazing results with Borneo white…I’m currently mixed Green Maeng da with White Borneo and I can see an increase in energy with more clarity…honestly…great stuff. HOpe this helped. tanya

    2. Nino

      Try the meng de white strains. there should be the most energetic. It is real important that you are getting it from a good source. My first thought when you said the white strains had no effect was that you didn’t get a good batch, but everyone’s body chemistry is different. If you are getting them from a head shop they probably are not very good, and can be cut with undesirables. Give the Meng De White vine another shot and remember for energy less is more.

  9. C.B.

    I highly recommend buying a capsule filling device (Ebay is your best bet, Amazon does not carry them) and a small inexpensive digital scale (Amazon IS your friend, in this case) if you decide that kratom is for you. The taste of kratom is utterly, absolutely DISGUSTING. For my first attempt at consuming powdered kratom leaf, I followed some (terrible) advice on an online forum and mixed it into a cup of peach flavored yogurt. That was, without a doubt, the most disgusting thing I’ve ever forced myself to eat. Any trace of flavoring in the yogurt is obliterated and you’re left with a gritty, intensely bitter green sludge to force down your throat. I still can’t believe that I didn’t vomit, and I have a pretty strong stomach.

    After that, I used the simple toss-and-wash method for a while, using orange juice for the “wash” stage as it seems to be fairly effective at cleansing most (most, not all) of the bitterness out of your mouth. That was better than the yogurt, but still an unpleasant enough experience that I dreaded taking kratom. I finally caved in and bought the capsule machine (“00” size) on Ebay. I think it cost about $25 or so, I can’t remember exactly. It’s a fiddly thing and it takes a lot longer to fill a single batch of 24 caps than the 2 minutes claimed by the manufacturer, but it’s worth it to avoid that repugnant kratom taste. I use the digital scale ($10) to weigh the kratom caps after filling. I usually end up with around .6 to .8 grams per “00” sized capsule, if I really pack the kratom in there.

    You can buy kratom already in capsules, but your selection is severely limited and you’ll be paying far more per gram than you need to.

  10. Stacey

    Thank goodness for this conversion chart! I too am new to Kratom and it is truly a miracle in helping with opiate withdrawl. This was easy for me to use because I don’t have a scale so I have been taking a tablespoon in the morning. I tried the toss and wash method which was just not happening! Now I mix it with orange juice…of course you can still taste it but at least I can get it down!!

  11. David

    This is great info because some people give their dosages in teaspoons and it’s good guidance.

    That said, I second Jared and highly recommend that you invest in a good tenth-gram scale (they’re available for under $20) and measure, since it depends on strain, how ground it is, etc.

  12. Dora

    To the newbies here a few tips.
    First of all, I encourage you to take Kratom to get off opiates. I myself was on the vicious cycle of prescription painkillers (all legal, I am a cancer patient).
    I had enough of the constant struggle and labeling.
    Here is my dosage suggestion that has worked miracles for me. No withdrawal symptoms at all from day one:
    Mix two teaspoons of regular (not enhanced) Kratom in some water, just enough to be able to drink it all in one go. Add some frozen limeade or lemonade. Let sit for five minutes, then stir to get rid of the dry parts. Then drink it all in one go and wash with fruit, like a piece of watermelon, which works for me.
    That is usually a safe dosage. And it really does work.

    1. lllisa

      Bless you for leaving this message Dora. I am almost feeling absolved of the label society forces in me because I take pain pills. They act as though actually bring in pain is just an excuse for being a junky and they areally wrong but they are not budging. It was amazing to see someone who gets it

      1. Mandie

        I just recieve my kratom today. I too am a chronic pain patient that is fed up past my eyeballs with the stress and labeling of pain mgt. I’m praying this works for me. For I have chronic RA and Fibromyalgia. I REFUSE to go back to a pain clinic. So tired of them treating me as if I got up one morning and decided I was going to be sick.

    2. Beverly OMalley

      Also using Kratom for chronic pain. I mix it with a small amount of water until it is all wet and just down it quickly. I have heard others use applesauce or mashed banana to get it down.
      I have been able to reduce oxycodone dose by 75% with no withdrawal ( it wasn’t working anymore anyway)

      Started with 2 gms and now take at least 1/2 tablespoon 2-3 times per day and over a tablespoon at night which really helps with sleep (red vein variety). This plant is doing for me what I though marijuana would do. It just evens things our from a pain perspective but does NOT affect my intelligence or motivation in any way. (Prior to becoming extremely allergic to cannabis it made me very depressed and very stupid).

      Now I have hope that I will see the end of regular opiate use. Using Kratom allows ME to be in control. I do NOT have to be under the control of someone else as a gateway to my medicine. When and if I decide to come off it I can manage it myself…no more pain clinic… more doctors …no more contracts/agreements….no more urine tests etc.

      It is really important to have a good supplier and I have found a good one that ships good product quickly AND this stuff is legal in my country.

      I could NOT find any natural health practitioner that knew anything about this plant. It is NOT in herbal formularies for Chinese medicine or British Botanical medicine because it is Indonesia so you have to do your own research and become your own expert.
      Forums like this are necessary and have taught me a lot. We have to keep helping each other!

      1. Jacqueline Aguilera

        Same same. I totally agree with your post. I’m trying to get off fentanyl patches 3-100s which I have been on for 16 years buto I need help using the Kramtom. I need a legit seller who I can order from because I can try getting off patch but by day two the withdrawal is so intense I go put a patch on. It’s controlling my life because can’t ever take vacation go swimming do anything that I used to love to do. Now Dr wants to retire gut wants me to get a surgery I don’t want butter if I don’t do it he said he was gonna stop my meds. Had so many surgeries that have failed I just don’t want to go through another. My email address is [email protected] please help. I have a family who doesn’t really give a shit how I feel all my husband used to say was go take a pill my kids don’t understand what and how I feel so they constantly except me to be wonderwoman. Then my husband got diabetes with neuropathy and had to go to pain management then he finally started to notice me again butter not for me butter my meds since he was taking his so fast. I just want a life my life back. This way I can have a fresh start on everything. I already told my husband it’s over for us as soon as we can both get over the withdrawals. His Dr stopped his medicine cold turkey for failing a piss test. So he wants my meds which I hide everywhere in my house because Im trying to get off my meds myself so I need mine in case something goes wrong. Anyways I would appreciate help with the Kramom as in how much to take how many times a day and tge best place to purhase. Hopefully I can receive your help it’ll be much appreciated. Thank you graciously jacqueline

    3. David

      Dora, for how long did you take the Kratom to get off the opiates? Were you able to just stop taking the Kratom? Or was there a dependency/withdrawal from that as well? I’ve been taking fentanyl for about a month. Also cancer related. Severe nerve regrowth pain but I’m already noticing withdrawal symptoms when I stop after about 12-14 hours. I had to go to rehab last year after being on fentanyl for a little over 6 months due to cancer surgeries and treatments. I’m terrified of going through that again. Any help or insight you can provide would be so greatly appreciated 🙏🏽 Thank you

  13. Tina

    Just received my capsules of Kratom 500mg capsules to get off of opiates. Need to know how much to take

    1. Barbara Shirley

      Let me know

  14. Janette

    I bought 2 WVI and received samples of GM & RVT. 10 g and 25 g. Well, it was all I could do not to vomit. I have read all comments and maybe I mix it up wrong? No directions and was wondering how? I am newby, go figure. Bought it from Mmm…S. Trying to get off opiates, to be truthful. Heard alot about Kratom. So, I thought I would try it. Had surgery about 2 months ago and the laws have changed here, after the Surgeon gets his cut, then that’s that. I do not want to go to a psychiatrist, to get Suboxone. That’s the only way you can get it here. Then, that’s just another drug to withdrawal from. Tired of it. Any help would be great? What about kratom mang dae? Thanks!

    1. Vicky Morgan

      If you do not have problems digesting stuff (I do, so can’t do this), you can buy a capsule machine (I did) & make them & no taste. You have to take about 18 capsules to equal approximately 1 tablespoon of Kratom. I do not recommend extracts, but pure, ground Kratom leaf. The Red Vein kind is what is recommended for pain control, but it works like the green, white, & yellow leaf, just works better for pain control. The Horned Maend Da is also a Red Vein. Just because some are listed as ‘Super’, or ‘Premium’ does not necessarily mean it is a superior product. I have been experimenting with it for pain control & mood enhancement, which I was taking Xanax & Norco for years & my doctor got the great idea to take me off cold turkey. Nice, huh? This stuff saved my sanity I’m sure. I mix about a tablespoon in a few ounces of warm water, either let it set for about 5 minutes & it will seep in, or mix vigorously & it will mix in… Slam it down (kinda gritty & tastes like crap, but gets it over fast), rinse with a bit more warm water so as not to waste any, drink it down. I think coffee pairs well & gets the taste ruout of your mouth, but sometimes I rinse & spit too. Some Strains are more gritty than others & trial & error are the only way to know & some are stonger (or not) tasting, though I’ve never found any that tastes good. It’s worth it. If your digestive system works correctly, you should notice a difference in 20 minutes max, & if it doesn’t, within an hour for sure (not capsules, they take some people longer to digest). You cannot OD on this stuff. Uf you take too much, you will likely vomit or get a headache. If that happens, trt taking a little less next time. I went from taking more-than-prescribed pain meds to taking this stuff 2 times a day with absolutely no craving for prescription pills. Plus the pain pills never took my pain away 100%, but Kratom does, at least the Red Vein ones do, the others a bit, but tge Reds, definitely. Good luck to you. I hope I covered it all. Oh, I buy mine from a trusted vendor, their products are pure, with no additives. They do have a rewards program, so if you try them, I believe both you & I get 500 ‘points’ worth 5 bucks towards purchasing. The way for me to get referral points is:

      1. tanya

        Vicki thank you for your post…I seem to get so sleepy with the reds and I, like yourself use Kratom for pain management. I’ve found that if I mix white borneo and red maeng da together they do a pretty good job with pain, but has NEVEr took all my pain away…but I’m able to function thank God. I’m going to try Kratomunderground…sounds like I may switch since your pain is gone completely. I use minimum order is one kilo but all for 100.00 and you can mix/match. There Boreno and maeng da is fabulous…anway thanks Tanya

        1. S. Larson

          I tried kratom for the first time today. I think we all can agree that there is nothing out there that’s perfect, but I was surprised at how well it worked. It did not take all the pain away but it made things comfortable. I’m excited to try mixing different types. Let’s keep kratom legal!!!

    2. Pennie

      I’m finally able to take kratom for opioid withdrawals and pain management after a load of mistakes and confusion. 1. Scoop the powder in a measuring spoon. Use 1 tsp-2 tsps. If you get a headache, you took too much. 2. Flip the spoon over on your tongue and bang it lightly in your bottom teeth. 3. Chase it down with something you like and can gulp. I use bottled tea. 4. Capsules take longer and are weaker. Good for travel. God bless! It’s fabulous medicine.

      1. Barbs

        Thanks for that advice. I’m new to kratom and am trying it because I’m sick of being in pain and also fighting doctors who can’t fix my back pain (many issues, including compression fractures, bulging disc, arthritis and neck surgery 8 years ago). I’ve had two non-effective steroid injections and now the doc says I can’t take as much vicodin and the injections didn’t work! So….my goal is to try kratom and go slowly at first, just to see if it helps with my pain. Question: Do ya’ll recommend telling the doctor you’re taking this, or will that just make him/her freak out and take away the small amount of vicodin I already am on? Thank you! (My first thought is to stay silent, but I’m wondering how others have handled this.)

        1. Pashta

          I was wondering if I should mention it to my pain doc, too. It’s not illegal, it’s not an opiate, it’s basically just a supplement so I don’t think we have to say anything if we don’t want to.

          I’ve only had one dose so far and it was too weak but seemed to help with my back pain a little. I’m hoping when I increase the next one it’ll be much better.

        2. Ainedo

          I tell all my docs about it. You need to break up your week with Kratom and opioids if you use both as cross tolerance is a real pain in the butt. They don’t potentiate one another but instead one will cancel the other out and that will build a tolerance. Usually it’s the opiate that gets the tolerance.

          You can mix with OJ and it’s supposed to take nearly all of the bitter taste away. I put the powder on my tongue and wash down with as much water as it takes. It’s just easiest.

          It’s a good idea to be straight with your doc about it. I have three different autoimmune diseases and one is an orphan disease that’s on the top ten most painful list. I gave up on the medical system and was just barely getting by. Now it’s better. I’m having a bitch of a flare that isn’t being touched by the K but I only have a Maeng Da that’s not great for pain. :/

        3. Beverly OMalley

          I started Kratom and did NOT tell my doctor. Honestly ….you should know more about your treatment than your doctor anyway.
          The first day I went a full 24 hours without any Oxycodone and no withdrawals, however, I did take too much Kratom and got headaches and itchy so I stopped it for a while, but was pleased to see what it could do. The next time I started it I went slowly (starting at 2 gm) and substituted a Kratom dose for my usual Oxy dose. I have had no problem reducing the oxycodone and my doctor is so thrilled! (HA)
          If I can keep the Oxy down to 10 mg per day or every other day I can probably keep the prescription, but even if it is stopped I know that I am not stuck!
          Kratom does NOT relieve pain like the Oxy did BUT it does help even things out. I am much, much better than I was when I started the Oxy (chronic back) but doc was freaking out because Oxy use was regular and going up because of increasing tolerance. Now he is happy that it is coming down.
          We are BOTH happy.

        4. Ahuva

          Are you sure not to mix? I am being weaned down from patches. Still at to high of dose to quit cold. To scared to alternate
          At 100 mcg phentyl. Should i wait to try kraton. The pain is starting to get to me but not knife stabbing yet. This was the first I heard about cross tolerance. Also scared to talk to new Dr because of the news media

      2. Cheryl

        Today will be my first day trying kratom. For no opiods. Trying avoid withdrawals and still want euphoria. Going to smoke shop and don’t have alot to spend. What’s the best thing I can get? Please help. New and feeling confused about choices

  15. Jared

    Hi Tammy,

    Honestly, it’s worth spending about 10 bucks on a decent scale. I got an AWS (American Weigh Scale) for 9 dollars or so. Very small, and accurate. I weighed a LEVEL teaspoon from several vendors, different strains, all came up at 2.5 grams. So, a teaspoon is always 2.5 grams, right? Unfortunately, no. You have to factor in things like moisture content and so forth. I decided to re-weigh the same strains, different shipments, so presumably different batches and guess what? 2.4, 2.6, 2.7 and so on. I calibrate the scale weekly too. A teaspoon may be convenient, but accuracy is super important, especially if you know that strain rotation is essential to combat tolerance and avoid SSS (same, or stagnant strain syndrome). Good luck.

    1. Cathy

      How much is everyone spending every month on their Kratom? I’m just trying to get just an average ball park idea is all. I know everyone is different but if some of you could just give me some what of an idea… I would truly appreciate it. Thanks.

      1. Joe Hutchisin

        $20 to $30 a week

  16. TAMMY

    I have been using the White Veil and the Red trying to see if I am using the correct dose I use a teaspoon so say 3 grams??

    1. Angela Hill

      I have been on subs for 16 months trying to come off of them what is the best way

      1. Jelly Bean

        So glad that I’m free today if that kratom *addiction*. God, without actually realizing it I lost 80 pounds within a year — not good (for me). I became a highly irritable, paranoid skeleton who spoke like 300 words per second. What a mess. That was nearly 4 years ago. Today if I even think of shoving that nasty powder (kratom) down my throat I get nauseated. Just thinking of it. Good riddance.

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